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submitted 3 days ago by tonytins@pawb.social to c/games@lemmy.world

A user asked on the official Lutris GitHub two weeks ago "is lutris slop now" and noted an increasing amount of "LLM generated commits". To which the Lutris creator replied:

It's only slop if you don't know what you're doing and/or are using low quality tools. But I have over 30 years of programming experience and use the best tool currently available. It was tremendously helpful in helping me catch up with everything I wasn't able to do last year because of health issues / depression.

There are massive issues with AI tech, but those are caused by our current capitalist culture, not the tools themselves. In many ways, it couldn't have been implemented in a worse way but it was AI that bought all the RAM, it was OpenAI. It was not AI that stole copyrighted content, it was Facebook. It wasn't AI that laid off thousands of employees, it's deluded executives who don't understand that this tool is an augmentation, not a replacement for humans.

I'm not a big fan of having to pay a monthly sub to Anthropic, I don't like depending on cloud services. But a few months ago (and I was pretty much at my lowest back then, barely able to do anything), I realized that this stuff was starting to do a competent job and was very valuable. And at least I'm not paying Google, Facebook, OpenAI or some company that cooperates with the US army.

Anyway, I was suspecting that this "issue" might come up so I've removed the Claude co-authorship from the commits a few days ago. So good luck figuring out what's generated and what is not. Whether or not I use Claude is not going to change society, this requires changes at a deeper level, and we all know that nothing is going to improve with the current US administration.

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[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Moral of the story is don’t let Claude do commits. It insists on crediting itself

Also stop harassing openspurce developers

Also be transparent when you have vibecoded commits. There’s no reason to hide it. Just say that parts of your codebase is vibecoded or coded with ai assist and those who don’t like it can fork it or use something else.

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also be transparent when you have vibecoded commits. There’s no reason to hide it.

I find it rather ironic that one thing they are transparent about is the covering up the evidence that proves it was vibecoded. Apparently, they never heard of the Strainsand Effect.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

This. I'm fine with auto complete, snippets and llm suggestions. But I still need to read and review and, critically, comphrend the code. I always review it's work, and most often make changes that I know are better practices.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I’m afraid you are ac dying breed of developer

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I, too, sense a rising anti-intellectualism in today's world in general. Just the other day some guy came by my place asking to "read the gas meter". Whatever happened to the classics?!

[-] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 58 points 2 days ago

I really hate this new trend of FOSS developers being attacked and harassed for using AI. You might not like if they are using AI. Or you might not like AI at all, but there's no reason to harass people who are providing you free software. Let them develop it like they want. If you don't like that they used AI, use another software. Or fork the software before they started using AI. But attacking people like that is not okay on so many levels. It's not okay to attack people for the software they are using. It's not okay to attack developers providing a free service and it's not okay to attack people at all.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Transparency. The developer lied and then stopped crediting Claude.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

That's twisting the order of events.

The developer was marking code when AI was used.

Anti-AI drones started harassing him in Discord, the forums and Github PRs

The developer stopped marking code when AI was used.

The Anti-AI assholes are not participating in development in good faith, this is a harassment campaign. He's taking steps to mitigate the harassment.

The fault and blame here is entirely on the people who thought it was okay to dog pile on a volunteer developer.

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[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Aaaaand just uninstalled lutris. There are many other ways to install windows games and applications that aren't ensloppified.

[-] r1veRRR@feddit.org 81 points 2 days ago

From his perspective, he's investing his free time and likely money into a project for people that are 99% of the time just leechers, as in they never contribute back and only complain.

Now he has a tool that he feels helps him deal with all that FREE labor is doing for everyone, and the very same people now want to tell him how to do his FREE labor he does for them.

I completely understand being pissed off by that.

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[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago

AI is actively destroying the environment and harming people. Data centers have been caught using methane burner generators (which are banned for use by the EPA) which significantly increase health risk to residents that live nearby (cancer and asthma rates already significantly increased). Then you have the ridiculous effects it is having on computer hardware markets, energy and water infrastructure and prices.

Then after all of that, the AI themselves are hallucinating somewhere in the neighborhood of 25% of the time, and multiple studies have found that people that use them regularly are losing their own skills.

I can't figure out why people would choose to use them. I can't figure out why programming is the one place where people that might have otherwise been considered experts in the field are excited to use them. Writers, artists, lawyers, doctors, basically every other professional field that AI companies have suggested these would be good for, they get trashed by experts in the fields for making garbage. I have a hard time believing the only thing AI can do well is write code when it sucks so badly at everything else it does. Does development suck this much? Do developers have so little idea what they are doing that this seems like a good idea?

[-] antihumanitarian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

If you're honestly asking, LLMs are much better at coding than any other skill right now. On one hand there's a ton of high quality open source training data that appropriated, on the other code is structured language so is very well suited for what models "are". Plus, code is mechanically verifiable. If you have a bunch of tests, or have the model write tests, it can check its work as it goes.

Practically, the new high end models, GPT 5.4 or Claude Opus 4.6, can write better code faster than most people can type. It's not like 2 years ago when the code mostly wouldn't build, rather they can write hundreds or thousands of lines of code that works first try. I'm no blind supporter of AI, and it's very emotionally complicated watching it after years honing the craft, but for most tasks it's simple reality that you can do more with AI than without it. Whether it's higher quality, higher volume, or integrating knowledge you don't have.

Professionally I don't feel like I have a choice, if I want to stay employed in the field at least.

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[-] lohky@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

There hasn't been anything I haven't been able to run between Heroic and Steam. I didn't like using lutris anyway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Honestly, unfortunately, I agree. It IS unfortunately helpful, and if you're a competent developer using AI tooling, you can make sure it doesn't generate slop. You are responsible for your code, at the end of the day.

AI does generate societal damage, but that's mostly because of how companies abuse it and less because of the technology itself.

[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

AI does generate societal damage, but that’s mostly because of how companies abuse it and less because of the technology itself.

Don't excuse the technology. It was created to be useless and wasteful. Every question on an AI engine helps burn down entire forests. Every AI that is kept awaken and serving dries the lagoons and rivers of an indigenous tribe, if not a small town. Every model is built upon the sustained theft of art, code and identity, to the point the main financers are proud of it and using it as legal justification.

People who are evil, made a tool for evil, and those using the tool of evil are doing little more than enabling evil. Number must go up.

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[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 52 points 2 days ago

I understand the hatred towards AI, but people gotta understand that there's a difference between coding with AI and Vibecoding. They are DIFFERENT THINGS! AI is userful, what is not are both vibecoding and shaming a developer with 30 years of real world experience with no AI support for using it for once. Using AI is ok if you do that critically and with common sense

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 34 points 2 days ago

If it's making commits for you you're vibe coding.

I use it at work, I use it for troubleshooting and if I get it to generate anything for me, I stage them and review them before committing myself

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[-] nialv7@lemmy.world 176 points 3 days ago

you can criticise them but ultimately they are a unpaid developer making their work freely available to the benefit of us all. at least don't harass the developer.

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[-] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 210 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean, I get if you wanna use AI for that, it's your project, it's free, you're a volunteer, etc. I'm just not sure I like the idea that they're obscuring what AI was involved with. I imagine it was done to reduce constant arguments about it, but I'd still prefer transparency.

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[-] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Open source stuff is awesome and I really like people improving Linux in their spare time

But, to do it this way is basically saying "fuck you" to the community which is fucked up.

Could have talked about how AI helps him or how he uses it for templates or whatever and damn even if I didn't agree with those points either that's a lot better than being like "alright good luck finding it now then bitch"

I wouldn't mess with anything this guy does anymore after this.

[-] pheelicks@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago

Are you talking about his way of communicating or about his AI use? I think it could have been said a bit more level headed, but I mostly agree with what he's said. I also see no issue with the part "good luck finding it then" that seems to sound malicious to you. To me this means "if you can't find a difference in quality, your whole complaint is invalid because there basically is no difference in quality". Yes, it's still AI and should not be viewed as more than a knowledgeable intern, yada yada, but I hope the point comes across...

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[-] Bieren@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago

I work for a major software company. They are bragging about how much is AI code now. It’s not just things like lutris.

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[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago

Somehow hiding the code feels worse than using the code. This whole thing is yuck.

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