A user asked on the official Lutris GitHub two weeks ago "is lutris slop now" and noted an increasing amount of "LLM generated commits". To which the Lutris creator replied:

It's only slop if you don't know what you're doing and/or are using low quality tools. But I have over 30 years of programming experience and use the best tool currently available. It was tremendously helpful in helping me catch up with everything I wasn't able to do last year because of health issues / depression.

There are massive issues with AI tech, but those are caused by our current capitalist culture, not the tools themselves. In many ways, it couldn't have been implemented in a worse way but it was AI that bought all the RAM, it was OpenAI. It was not AI that stole copyrighted content, it was Facebook. It wasn't AI that laid off thousands of employees, it's deluded executives who don't understand that this tool is an augmentation, not a replacement for humans.

I'm not a big fan of having to pay a monthly sub to Anthropic, I don't like depending on cloud services. But a few months ago (and I was pretty much at my lowest back then, barely able to do anything), I realized that this stuff was starting to do a competent job and was very valuable. And at least I'm not paying Google, Facebook, OpenAI or some company that cooperates with the US army.

Anyway, I was suspecting that this "issue" might come up so I've removed the Claude co-authorship from the commits a few days ago. So good luck figuring out what's generated and what is not. Whether or not I use Claude is not going to change society, this requires changes at a deeper level, and we all know that nothing is going to improve with the current US administration.

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[–] 50 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I understand the hatred towards AI, but people gotta understand that there's a difference between coding with AI and Vibecoding. They are DIFFERENT THINGS! AI is userful, what is not are both vibecoding and shaming a developer with 30 years of real world experience with no AI support for using it for once. Using AI is ok if you do that critically and with common sense

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If it's making commits for you you're vibe coding.

    I use it at work, I use it for troubleshooting and if I get it to generate anything for me, I stage them and review them before committing myself

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    No, vibe coding explicitly requires NEVER looking at the actual code. I can give claude a ticket, it creates a plan. I review that plan, maybe change some things. Then claude does the thing. I review the code, then tell claude to fix X. Then I test, then I tell claude to create a commit.

    There we have claude creating a commit without any of it being vibe coded

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You can do that with 99.9% less damage to the environment and the working class with git -f rebase, or even the old tried and true method of rm -rf && git pull ....

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I totally agree. I'm not an AI hype man. I want to scream whenever I see a PR littered with emojis, bullet lists, and way too much text for a simple change. I hate the discussions about the transformative power of AI, the 10x production gains, all the million tools, agents, skills, plugins, methods I should be using but I am already behind and old and probably unemployed next week, right? Still, AI use is not inherently bad. It gets me unstuck. It finds subtle errors I wasn't noticing, it writes documentation faster and better than I can. I hate the companies who are pushing it, the methods of it's training, but the tool itself is just a tool and sometimes a very useful one. IMHO we shouldn't shame every open source developer just for using it. As long as they are responsible with it, I'm fine with some AI code in my software.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You are correct but people in general are pretty bad at subtly and grey area. Just look at the current state of political discourse in the US. Probably half the people that support the likes of Trump do so because they like black/white binary choice and can't handle shades of grey in their life emotionally.

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    Please, go ahead and remove everything "AI" in your life. No social media. No GPS. No assist when driving or being driven. No streaming of any kind. No meteo apps. Ask your boss to remove everything related to prevision in his company. Ask your doctor to not use any tool to help his diagnosis if you have a scanner for cancer.

    Let's see how many of those you can "pass". Or let's see if it helps you develop a critical mind about to use which tool for which job and how to use it.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm already full Linux at work. Location on my mobile is always OFF unless I need it on rare occasions. I don't stream. I self host.

    Say your last sentence into a mirror today.

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Bro, you are on fucking Lemmy. We are all like you. You are not special. You never ever use GPS to locate yourself, right? You never go from a to b. You never go in a shop to buy food. You never go to the doctor. You never buy anything online. You never watch YouTube. Sure.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Are you asking people to be rational? What kind of monster are you

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It is more nuance than rationality.

    There are plenty of reasons to hate on AI. But in the end they are just tools to automate things. It depends entirely on how it is being used. With enough effort and most importantly checking the output, you can create things faster while still keeping the same quality as before.

    Calling anything that even slightly touched an LLM "slop" and crawling in a fetus position while crying is a lot less rational. These people have no idea about the real world.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    I for news for you its the same thing. There is no difference besides maybe the prompt same AI is writing the code. And I do bit believe a coder is going over every single line of code.

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