It's possible to want both "sides" to lose

Kind of. I mean ... I wouldnt be sad if something happened ... I would be the opposite of sad.

The enemy of my enemy...

It'd cause a huge amount of trouble, and many people would die

But I'd still pop a bottle of champagne I've been saving

How many of Irans 'leaders' were got in the terrorist attacks? If that were reciprocated I wonder if the world would blink.

Conveniently right on the coast, no need to go far inland!

I mean in the era of 3d-printed fpv drones, it's strange to me that he still lives.

Not even out of the realm of possibility. He disintegrated khamenei and kidnapped maduro. Who’s stopping any country from doing that to him?

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The point Iran is making is that a war does not need billions of dollars of munitions to turn. They can do a lot of damage economically. This world would have been a 20x better place if some kid just aimed 2 inches to the right.

I see it claimed that Vance would be worse a lot, but he doesn't even remotely have what it takes to be a cult leader, which is all the GOP is now. The power vacuum could only be a good thing.

I don't think causus belli works like that in the modern day, and we haven't cared about legal mandates for war in the US for like 50 years.

Vance probably won't have a political mandate for continued war because a historically unpopular and getting more so by the moment president was killed in retaliation for a war he started.

I am not so sure. Trump is an idiot and ignores people's advice because he thinks hes a genius, so I could see Iranian cells in america coming up with a viable assassination plot. Especially since they are not against kamikazee typed assassinations.

He doesn't have the cult of personality that Trump has. This means Republicans can and will openly challenge him which could destabilize the party.

I never have understood this take. Vance has a lot of evil in him but Trump's strength lies in having millions of supporters. Vance doesn't have that. They barely tolerate him. Politics isn't about just getting into power, you have to have people willing to support your plans. As much as Trump wants it to be, it's not a dictatorship, and the only reason it looks so much like one is that he has thousands of people in government who will break the law because he wants them to. What reason do we have to think they'd be even half as willing to do that for Vance?

I agree

I'm extremely grateful for the fact that I live in a civilised country, rather than 'Murica

If they nuke Trump, there is a good chance he's close enough.

Vance has the charm and charisma of a dead mouse under a door mat. Right wing propaganda and think tanks built the perfect fascist base but it was hijacked by Trump and they won't follow anyone else exclusively. There'll still be MAGA like there's still cultists from dead cults.

Trump dies in an Iranian attack, instant martyr.

Trump dies the most embarrassing way possible, not a martyr.