▲ 296 ▼ Iran Makes Veiled Threat to Trump: 'Be Careful Not To Get Eliminated' (time.com) submitted 5 months ago by FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 123 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Stormy 7 points 5 months ago (9 children) Vance isn't any better permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 23 points 5 months ago (1 child) He doesn't have the cult of personality that Trump has. This means Republicans can and will openly challenge him which could destabilize the party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Stormy 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) He'll have the same crutches and props in the media as trump, but he has a functional brain and theil guiding him. He's worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago He's dangerous, all right, but the GOP Nazis have built their power on the backs of Trump's cult. Losing them would be a huge blow they would have to work hard to recover from. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children) I never have understood this take. Vance has a lot of evil in him but Trump's strength lies in having millions of supporters. Vance doesn't have that. They barely tolerate him. Politics isn't about just getting into power, you have to have people willing to support your plans. As much as Trump wants it to be, it's not a dictatorship, and the only reason it looks so much like one is that he has thousands of people in government who will break the law because he wants them to. What reason do we have to think they'd be even half as willing to do that for Vance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago MAGA is a classic Cult of Personality, and Trump is the man. There is no #2, or even an obvious successor. Vance, Rubio, Don Jr, and others all see themselves as the heir apparent, but the MAGA rank & file only love Trump, and when he's gone, most of them will fade away. Some may try to keep it together, but their hearts won't be in it. 90% of the MAGA following will evaporate, leaving only Republicans who sold their souls for the worst president and the most prolific traitor in American history. When he croaks, the knives will come out, and the backstabbing will begin. I can't wait. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Also, a good chunk of people think he’s weirdo couch fucker that wears mascara and is Peter Theil’s butt boy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've also heard at least one person claim they think Vance had Charlie Kirk killed so as to get with Erika Kirk. Which while weird isn't even outside of the realm of possibility funny enough, I could definitely see Vance being part of a plot to kill old bleedy kneck to get with Mrs. Bleedy kneck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Or Israel had Kirk killed because he was recently and loudly anti-Israel, had Presidential ambitions and they knew that their puppet Vance couldn't win an election against him when it came to that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I agree I'm extremely grateful for the fact that I live in a civilised country, rather than 'Murica permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) If it weren't for the fact I'm a USA citizen, I'd migrate elsewhere. I may not be high demand but I'm certain there's countries out there that'd still take someone with my career knowledge still. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) There are many pathways to emigrate Lots of countries have visas available to people with qualifications Look up "skilled migrants" visas Australia is at least one option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago A lot of them want either high level degree holders or medical specialists. I've looked about and not seen anything related to IT. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago Vance has the charm and charisma of a dead mouse under a door mat. Right wing propaganda and think tanks built the perfect fascist base but it was hijacked by Trump and they won't follow anyone else exclusively. There'll still be MAGA like there's still cultists from dead cults. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FatVegan@leminal.space 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) If they nuke Trump, there is a good chance he's close enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago Lots of folks in the DMV don’t need to go down with Trump et al. The DMV is not magaland permalink fedilink source parent [–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago This argument is weak permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago He is because he isn't a cult leader. The power vacuum could only be a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago No he might actually be worse overall because he’s Thiel’s special boy but also he wouldn’t just impulsively nuke Malaysia because they were mean to him. Mostly because he’s Thiels special boy and Peter is terrified of death permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago I don't fucking care. Things are horrible now. I'll take the gamble you're wrong (which you are. Vance isn't a mascot like Trump.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 23 points 5 months ago (1 child) He doesn't have the cult of personality that Trump has. This means Republicans can and will openly challenge him which could destabilize the party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Stormy 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) He'll have the same crutches and props in the media as trump, but he has a functional brain and theil guiding him. He's worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago He's dangerous, all right, but the GOP Nazis have built their power on the backs of Trump's cult. Losing them would be a huge blow they would have to work hard to recover from. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Stormy 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) He'll have the same crutches and props in the media as trump, but he has a functional brain and theil guiding him. He's worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago He's dangerous, all right, but the GOP Nazis have built their power on the backs of Trump's cult. Losing them would be a huge blow they would have to work hard to recover from. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago He's dangerous, all right, but the GOP Nazis have built their power on the backs of Trump's cult. Losing them would be a huge blow they would have to work hard to recover from. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children) I never have understood this take. Vance has a lot of evil in him but Trump's strength lies in having millions of supporters. Vance doesn't have that. They barely tolerate him. Politics isn't about just getting into power, you have to have people willing to support your plans. As much as Trump wants it to be, it's not a dictatorship, and the only reason it looks so much like one is that he has thousands of people in government who will break the law because he wants them to. What reason do we have to think they'd be even half as willing to do that for Vance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago MAGA is a classic Cult of Personality, and Trump is the man. There is no #2, or even an obvious successor. Vance, Rubio, Don Jr, and others all see themselves as the heir apparent, but the MAGA rank & file only love Trump, and when he's gone, most of them will fade away. Some may try to keep it together, but their hearts won't be in it. 90% of the MAGA following will evaporate, leaving only Republicans who sold their souls for the worst president and the most prolific traitor in American history. When he croaks, the knives will come out, and the backstabbing will begin. I can't wait. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Also, a good chunk of people think he’s weirdo couch fucker that wears mascara and is Peter Theil’s butt boy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've also heard at least one person claim they think Vance had Charlie Kirk killed so as to get with Erika Kirk. Which while weird isn't even outside of the realm of possibility funny enough, I could definitely see Vance being part of a plot to kill old bleedy kneck to get with Mrs. Bleedy kneck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Or Israel had Kirk killed because he was recently and loudly anti-Israel, had Presidential ambitions and they knew that their puppet Vance couldn't win an election against him when it came to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago MAGA is a classic Cult of Personality, and Trump is the man. There is no #2, or even an obvious successor. Vance, Rubio, Don Jr, and others all see themselves as the heir apparent, but the MAGA rank & file only love Trump, and when he's gone, most of them will fade away. Some may try to keep it together, but their hearts won't be in it. 90% of the MAGA following will evaporate, leaving only Republicans who sold their souls for the worst president and the most prolific traitor in American history. When he croaks, the knives will come out, and the backstabbing will begin. I can't wait. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Also, a good chunk of people think he’s weirdo couch fucker that wears mascara and is Peter Theil’s butt boy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've also heard at least one person claim they think Vance had Charlie Kirk killed so as to get with Erika Kirk. Which while weird isn't even outside of the realm of possibility funny enough, I could definitely see Vance being part of a plot to kill old bleedy kneck to get with Mrs. Bleedy kneck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Or Israel had Kirk killed because he was recently and loudly anti-Israel, had Presidential ambitions and they knew that their puppet Vance couldn't win an election against him when it came to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've also heard at least one person claim they think Vance had Charlie Kirk killed so as to get with Erika Kirk. Which while weird isn't even outside of the realm of possibility funny enough, I could definitely see Vance being part of a plot to kill old bleedy kneck to get with Mrs. Bleedy kneck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Or Israel had Kirk killed because he was recently and loudly anti-Israel, had Presidential ambitions and they knew that their puppet Vance couldn't win an election against him when it came to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Or Israel had Kirk killed because he was recently and loudly anti-Israel, had Presidential ambitions and they knew that their puppet Vance couldn't win an election against him when it came to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I agree I'm extremely grateful for the fact that I live in a civilised country, rather than 'Murica permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) If it weren't for the fact I'm a USA citizen, I'd migrate elsewhere. I may not be high demand but I'm certain there's countries out there that'd still take someone with my career knowledge still. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) There are many pathways to emigrate Lots of countries have visas available to people with qualifications Look up "skilled migrants" visas Australia is at least one option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago A lot of them want either high level degree holders or medical specialists. I've looked about and not seen anything related to IT. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) If it weren't for the fact I'm a USA citizen, I'd migrate elsewhere. I may not be high demand but I'm certain there's countries out there that'd still take someone with my career knowledge still. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) There are many pathways to emigrate Lots of countries have visas available to people with qualifications Look up "skilled migrants" visas Australia is at least one option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago A lot of them want either high level degree holders or medical specialists. I've looked about and not seen anything related to IT. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) There are many pathways to emigrate Lots of countries have visas available to people with qualifications Look up "skilled migrants" visas Australia is at least one option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago A lot of them want either high level degree holders or medical specialists. I've looked about and not seen anything related to IT. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago A lot of them want either high level degree holders or medical specialists. I've looked about and not seen anything related to IT. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago Vance has the charm and charisma of a dead mouse under a door mat. Right wing propaganda and think tanks built the perfect fascist base but it was hijacked by Trump and they won't follow anyone else exclusively. There'll still be MAGA like there's still cultists from dead cults. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) If they nuke Trump, there is a good chance he's close enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago Lots of folks in the DMV don’t need to go down with Trump et al. The DMV is not magaland permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago Lots of folks in the DMV don’t need to go down with Trump et al. The DMV is not magaland permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago This argument is weak permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago He is because he isn't a cult leader. The power vacuum could only be a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago No he might actually be worse overall because he’s Thiel’s special boy but also he wouldn’t just impulsively nuke Malaysia because they were mean to him. Mostly because he’s Thiels special boy and Peter is terrified of death permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago I don't fucking care. Things are horrible now. I'll take the gamble you're wrong (which you are. Vance isn't a mascot like Trump.) permalink fedilink source parent