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Fucking why? Being able to link a bank account for ad payments isn't enough to prove adulthood?
I think the whole reason is not “verify you are an adult”. It’s for anti-bot. Bots are too good nowadays. It’s indistinguishable at scale. And bots are bad for advertisers.
That's one hot take... Advertisers don't care if the streamer is a bot, they care if the viewer is a bot. Mega-corpo's ideal solution is 100% bot streamers and 100% real people viewers.
This isn't age verification, or anti-bot. This is straight up fulfilling surveillance contracts with the US government. They don't even need to justify it, they are holding money hostage instead.
Yeah, but this is affiliates we're talking about. There's already plenty of process for proving that affiliatesnare humans, not the least of which is the fact that they STREAM themselves.
Welp.. time to bail on Twitch now too..
Peertube is implementing streaming!
That's gonna be a big 'nope' from me. I wonder if that's US-only, though.
The person on Bluesky mentioned they are Canadian :\
You'll never see huge complaints from established streamers; because much like boomers, "LULW fuck you, got mine".
Have you ever heard the saying "don't bite the hand that feeds you." If you are a full time streamer it is literally the hand that feeds them. The streamers are in it for the ride. For every "lolz fuck you i got mine" there are 1000 streamers just making content.
Nope, never heard of it.
What power does an affiliate have to protest this?
Exactly, that's why people would expect the streamers on the front page to say something, but they won't.
Bye bye, Twitch.
Is having your literal banking info not enough to prove you're over 18?
Yeh, why not make billing able to carry ages verification?
Banks have to verify their customers. They (mostly) have a history of handling data well, it's in their interest/requirement to continue doing that.
The banking sector is well regulated compared to software/startups.
That can remove a large amount of service providers suddenly needing age verification. Just rely on the service purchase to verify it
I'm surprised the crowd here hasn't already left twitch. I haven't for a while, since I realised Amazon was involved and was becoming more aware of the online services I used.
huh haven't used that platform in years, guess I minght as well delete my account
So, the giving the deets to Persona part is pretty crap, but requiring ID seems to be pretty normal to me? I'm pretty sure affiliates count as contractors, so needing ID to verify would be standard. They are just using a service that happens to be shitty to do the validation.
You need to fill tax info and everything, which is a very good reason to not need ID because your tax number should be identifying already. I guess they want to combat fraud, but this still seems like a complete overreach.
It's not about combatting fraud
If Persona or Palantir were not involved it would be more likely to not be surveillance state shit. But this is obviously not the case. If they wanted to do actually id verification they would use banks or pay a government service. What people are not getting is that in this exchange, you are the product. Palantir was paying Discord to gather our data to track us and sell our data to Palantir's main client. They backed down because it is more profitable to keep all their customers than integrate with Palantir to sell our data and lose x amount of customers.
Twitch isn't requiring all users upload ID, just affiliates who get paid out for subscriptions/bits. That's such a small portion of people on the site that I sincerely doubt they are even able to sell that data.
So, the giving the deets to Persona part is pretty crap, but requiring ID seems to be pretty normal to me? I'm pretty sure affiliates count as contractors, so needing ID to verify would be standard. They are just using a service that happens to be shitty to do the validation.
Not sure why you're being downvoted.
I have to give my ID to buy website hosting. I have to give it to open a bank. I have to provide it for setting up a e-commerce store.
Like, what privacy are you expecting when money is exchanging hands between a major company and a person - one that is required to track all those details and hand them to their government?
You expecting Twitch to pay you in crypto?
What ID are you providing for web hosting? Literally never done this, just payables info.
I can't remember the hosts name, but I did get asked to send my DL to a hosting service. I did a free trial and tried to sign up, at the end I was asked to send a picture of my DL. I told them I would find a host that knew what they were doing, and deleted my account. This was probably five or six years ago, too. I do agree though, no other host has tried to pull this on me.
I needed my driver's license to prove that I was who I said I was with my credit card with ionos.
Crazy. I had Hetzner, Vultr, Linode, Rackspace (back in the day when they did that), never had to prove my identity.
Hetzner requires ID these days, not sure if it's for all new accounts or based on some sketchy algorithm but it's happened to more than one person I know.
Maybe things changed?
Hetzner asked me for my passport. I just signed up yesterday out of curiosity.
I guess so. Jeez. As of a month ago, Vultr and Linode did not.
Who is asking you to provide ID to purchase or rent a web hosting server?
Ionos. AWS. And now Hetzer (which I just did yesterday)?
Am I on a list or something because I'm being downvoted for sharing what I have to do to buy web services.
AWS
I know for a fact they do not require ID.
You sure it's not your BANK requiring it to verify your identity because you used a credit card?