When the Canadian Kimberly Prost learned Donald Trump’s administration had imposed sanctions on her, it came as a shock.

For years, she has sat as a judge at the international criminal court, weighing accusations of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity; now she is on the same list as terrorists and those involved in organised crime. “It really was a moment of a bit of disbelief,” she said.

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[–] 108 points 7 months ago (13 children)

That's why we need an alternative to US credit cards yesterday. And also a spine transplant to politicians.

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  • [–] 70 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    It's not just cards. Many banks today require using a mobile app for online banking, and those apps require an Apple- or Google-certified device and an Apple or Google account. While it is possible to open those accounts under a false name (the apps are free so you don't need to enter payment info), this is still an absurd amount of leverage the US has on everyday people's activities in other countries.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, that too. However, you have alternatives to Android to some degree that would allow a banking app to work. Nevertheless, we need a non-US operating system for mobile devices and so on.

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  • [–] [S] 29 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Not only US credit cards, we also need online payment alternatives. And the most annoying thing is the google play services requirements for every single app, just like this one as an example

    https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    In Europe there's WERO which was started to replace Paypal. It's still in its infancy though.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 7 months ago

    In our country, we use QR code payments. Currently, we have agreements to use this payment method with several countries in Asia. But it's still infuriating because most online payment and banking apps require Google Play Services.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago

    It's weird, I don't want to sanction an ICC judge. Let's have a look why that is...

    Hmmm, the only thing I can think of is that maybe it's because I'm not an international criminal?
    So, by that logic, anyone who sanctions an ICC judge must therefore be an international criminal.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    I’d like to know what the Canadian government and the EU are going to do about this.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The EU commission can do the same. Some people agree since there are strong Russian connections. But canceling the ability to pay without a judical verdict is wrong. https://feddit.org/post/26079160

    My fear is that this will come to anybody who is inconvenient to those in power.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Sometimes sanctions have to be swift, like sanctioning Russian oligarchs or manufacturers supporting the war. But there should be repercussions for sanctions imposed in bad faith or to intimidate.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    There must also be a minimum of monthly allowed funds for food and shelter. Those sanctions will come for regular citizens and at worst they will be imposed by an AI for comments on the internet, for anything the EU doesn't like.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    What would be the ideal answer is for the ICC to turn around and make every complicit company legally international criminals.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Perhaps these actions will start opening people's eyes to the lack of alternatives and to the massive power that controlling financial and technological tools provides.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    ill be a judge and take these "punishments" where their Xitter and facebook accounts canceled to

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago

    Wouldn't have this problem with Monero.

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