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Lmao! The Germans are so racist that now they want chinese immigrants out of Africa as well. (thelemmy.club)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by to c/slop@hexbear.net
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[–] 107 points 7 months ago (6 children)

i mean, there are ~20 times as many chinese nationals as there are german nationals on earth, so you ask me, germans are statistically overrepresented.

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  • [–] 68 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    See also: Military spending

    People freak out that China spends a lot on the military even though it’s still a lot less than the US spends, when if we’re using the US as a line for what’s reasonable China could justifiably spend 4 times as much as the US does on their military.

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  • [–] 51 points 7 months ago*

    One day, when I have the time and the willpower to write it all out, I will regale hexbear with the story of the time I got into a geopolitical discussion with a young American, liberal, politics post-grad whilst I was in Oaxaca. I've refrained from mentioning it ever because it was a greatest hits of liberal brain worms and it hurts my soul to recall it. Nevertheless, China was one of the topics of discussion and she expressed her great disapproval of the size of China's armed forces. This was at the tail end of our discussion and I had lost my patience at this point so I had to point out that any country would be wise to maintain a large army with the great monster that is the United States looming over the border, listed a bunch of conflicts that the US had instigated in my lifetime, until I was blue in the face, and then ended the conversation.

    Anyway, fuck that smug, chauvinistic lib.

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  • [+] 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    They also want other countries to ramp up spending or cheer when they do.

    See Japan saber rattling because PM and party but libs are happy. If China had said half the shit the PM had they'd say invade now

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    • [–] 86 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    The Germans literally committed a genocide in Namibia (the Herero)

    It's a very brutal one.

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    • [–] 58 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The level of idiosynstric racist derangement it takes for a government official to spit out that eugenicist and racialized drivel at a head of state during a televised meeting, reveals the extent to which neo-Nazi ideology has been normalized in German society

    It's not only what he said, it's also the fact he was comfortable saying it out loud during a high level event that exposes how deep the rot has set in

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    • [–] 53 points 7 months ago

    White people mind their own fucking business challenge (impossible)

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    [–] 49 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    This is slightly old. I think 2023? It's making the rounds again due to reposting it. Not really representative of the current softening of relations that is occurring between Europe and China.

    Still funny though.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    europe doesnt do real softening of relations though. they're just lying, biding their time and hoping they can still destroy china. i'm telling you these people would try to balkanize turkey and "take constantinople back" the moment turkey shits itself. they're all dreaming of restoring the roman empire or whatever delusional shit.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    You're not wrong but Europe is most concerned with de-vassalising and being sovereign than anything else at the current time. As well as not breaking up. Sure, they have the ambitions you outline, but they're not under delusions that they can pursue them when they barely have enough sovereignty to tell the US it can't have Greenland.

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    • [–] 49 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    How do you even get to a place, as a German, where you care about the ratio of ethnic Germans to ethnic Chinese in Namibia. Like it is obviously extremely, deeply racist but at the same time it's almost difficult to perceive it as such because of how fucking irrelevant it is. What's even your concern? It's another country on another fucking continent!

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    A worldview with 0 explanatory power that teaches them that they are the best inherently but any quick glance at reality will quickly prove that wrong. They need to look somewhere, anywhere, no matter how minor or irrelevant for something that they can twist into "proof" that their enemies are still the bad guys and they are still the good guys.

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    • [–] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    still malding about not being efficient colonizers

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    • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Why is your girlfriend staying over at your apartment? I used to to live here!

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    • [–] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    How dare those Chinese come to Deutsch-Südwestafrika

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    [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    This is from a few years ago I think

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    • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    The lack of self-reflection required to say 'People of nationality X are racist' is mind-blowing to me.

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  • [–] 48 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Would it make you more comfortable if instead they said racism has been historically institutionalized and systemically reproduced within Euro-American societies through law, labor systems, colonial policy, and bourgeoisie state power?

    I might invite you to read settlers

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    It would, but I suppose OP's intention was not to make constructive and nuanced criticism, but rather to rally against a supposed homogenous and evil 'other'.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    The issue is what I'm saying and what they're saying is the same thing. I'm just using the proper academic language. People in the imperial core are racist. Most not maliciously or consciously but simply through living in a system that perpetuates and enforces it.

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago

    Countries that support genocide don't get to complain when other people call them racist, also pretending like that slug isn't representative of a vast swathe of German society that views non-white people as (and I'm quoting German media) a "jungle"

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    "The Germans" is obviously a metonym for the German government (and those who support it) in this context. The claim isn't that every orphan and office clerk in Berlin is racist against Chinese people.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (3 children)

    Looking at some of the other replies to my comment (e.g. ElChapoDeChapo, Flyberius, CyborgMarx), I am not sure your comrades share that sentiment.

    And I would agree if we were talking about "Germany", but "The Germans" is usually used to refer to the people of Germany.

    I think it is important to clearly distinguish between a country's people and its government. Conflating the two only serves to mobilize ethnic hostilities.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    And I would agree if we were talking about "Germany", but "The Germans" is usually used to refer to the people of Germany.

    Bullshit argument. "Germans" means "the people of Germany" or "ethnic Germans" most of the time, but "the Germans" is highly contextual (as one would expect with a definite article) and the context here is clearly an action by the German government.

    In your clammering desperation to show that actually the poor little Germans are being victimized by us, you cite CyborgMarx as a counterexample when he is clearly agreeing with what I said, and Flyberius is plainly just mocking you for this pathetic concern-trolling about "ethnic hatred" of a European social majority whose country constitutionally supports an ethnostate that is showing you every day what actual ethnic hatred looks like.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    As an object, "Germans" is usually some subset in the set of all Germans. "I met Germans in the park today." --> I met some people in the park, which are German. As a subject, this subset can be the entire set. "Germans are racist." --> Germans are generally racist.

    "The Germans" is the subset of all Germans in some other set. "I met the Germans in the park today" --> If you are talking to a colleague, this likely means something like "I met all the Germans of our team in the park today."

    As you point out, "the Germans" needs a context, i.e. which set are the Germans a subset of? Without context, that set is the set of all humans.

    The question is then, which context does OP provide? And I think this is where our difference in how we understand comes from. I read the title first, so I read it as "Germans (as a subset of all humans) are racist". But, given the posted image, you may also read it as "German officials (as a subset of all officials) are racist", which is probably how you read it. I still wouldn't agree with that message, but I wouldn't reject it quite as strongly as the first one.

    I think both readings of the title are valid, and this ambiguity could be avoided by using "Germany" or "German officials"

    Another point: I agree that Germany has an issue with racism. But how is an ethnostate constitutionally supported? The constitution straight up bans racism in article 3: "No one may be disadvantaged or favored because of their gender, ancestry, race, language, homeland and origin, faith, religious or political opinions."

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The context is very clearly that the OOP talking about German officials, though of course from the first comment I made I have been including that their supporters are racists too.

    Another point: I agree that Germany has an issue with racism. But how is an ethnostate constitutionally supported? The constitution straight up bans racism in article 3: "No one may be disadvantaged or favored because of their gender, ancestry, race, language, homeland and origin, faith, religious or political opinions."

    The ethnostate Germany constitutionally supports is Israel.

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