US Democratic Senator Mark Kelly has said he will "seriously consider" running for president in 2028 as he battles the Trump administration over a video in which he urged military personnel to refuse illegal orders.

The Arizona senator, who was accused of "seditious behaviour" by Donald Trump over the November clip, said he and his wife, Gabrielle Giffords, received "many" death threats after the president's comments.

"We get them on a weekly basis now," he told BBC Newsnight. "We had to get security to protect us 24 hours a day."

Asked if he was considering a White House run, the retired Navy captain said he was considering it "because we're in some seriously challenging times".

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[–] 136 points 6 months ago (1 child)

I’d vote vote for anyone (Mark Kelly) over anyone who protects pedophiles. Plain. Simple. Straightforward.

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  • [–] 94 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, I'm just happy if theres an alternative to Newsome. Kelly isnt a progressive, but hes not a full blown corpo shill that the DNC would happily shove down our throats if unopposed.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago*

    Yeah I intended to write a very similar comment. I think Kelly is respected as someone who is both honest and who cares about the country, so while I’d nominally prefer a progressive, Kelly would be a huge alternative to Newsom’s slicked-back car salesman energy.

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  • [–] 105 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    And I will seriously consider voting for just about anyone else left of him in the primary. No offense to him, he seems like a very solid dude, but the time for half-measures, centrists, and people that believe institutions will save us is well beyond over.

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  • [–] 70 points 6 months ago (23 children)

    You nailed it on the head. If AOC runs, I’m absolutely voting for her. If not, Kelly seems a lot better than Newsom.

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    [–] 82 points 6 months ago (30 children)

    Either the next president will be a Democratic Socialist, or it will be a fascist. Democrats need to get back 20% of their base, plus the margin they need to pick up in the places they need to make up the differences they'll need to win the big house.

    Ask yourself this without looking at this announcement: Can a corporate Democrat do that?

    I'm telling you now, either the next president will be a Democratic Socialist, or the Republicans win. No amount of glazing liberals is going to make them capable of winning an election.

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    [–] 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    He might have to clarify a lot of his stances to get widespread support. For examples,

    he opposed the Republicans tax bill giving cuts to the rich, but he has no comments on Kamala's proposed unrealized gains tax for the rich

    he has a 100% scorecard from reproductive freedom advocates, but exactly how far he supports bodily autonomy and by extension trans rights is unknown

    Sadly one thing he has been clear and consistent on is when the war in gaza began several years ago, he supported aiding Israel and moving a carrier group to threaten Iran and Houthis into deescelating. He still as recent as January promises to continue "aiding" Israel despite acknowledging the carnage.

    Honestly, I don't like the idea. But he's a little better than Newsom and he's 10,000x better than Trump.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I will vote for anyone that promises to hurt Republicans

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    [–] 28 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So if he wins he will be at retirement age when he is starting? Are you sure he is old enough for American voters?

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Personally, what I am hoping for is a ticket with AOC as president, and Mark Kelly as vice. He can help AOC with military issues, while she can guide the nation towards some flavor of Democratic Socialism.

    I think we will see a civil war, so we definitely need a military expert in a major role. Kelly should do nicely.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    i like mark kelly and gabby would be a fantastic first lady but please not right now; we need a radical to clean up the mess.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    We need a Warrior, who will go after MAGA's crimes likes it's personal. I don't care who it is, old, young, man, woman, black, white, anybody, everything else is on the back burner. We can't get this country on any kind of a track until we ruthlessly crush MAGA, purge it from our government and our country, and harshly punish them for their crimes. Only then, can we start to make plans to redeem our Nation in the eyes of our citizens, the world, and history

    I'll vote for anybody who pledges to make that their primary priority as POTUS.

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    [–] 23 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I'd vote for him. Back when Biden was dropping out, I posted the question of peoples preferred democratic candidate, and Kelly was suggested by several people.

    I think he could have won the '24 election had he been the candidate, and I think he could win the next election also.

    The fact that (as he said in the video) he "Doesn't consider himself a politician" is a huge plus.

    It's a bit sad that he's starting to get old though. 60 seemed perfectly okay, 65 is a bit on the high end.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Worker led revolution please this system doesn’t serve us.

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    [–] 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I am hard pressed to think of a democrat I would vote for in a primary over him.

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  • [+] 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    A lot of lefties going to complain about his support for israel, even if modest.

    Really depends on who he is running against and how he positions himself along the way. If he's out saying "Israel is our oldest and dearest friend, they just made a few mistakes" or god forbid "Anyone critical is anti-Semitic" he's DOA. If he's out there saying "We spend billions of dollars so Israel can have clean potable water and top tier health care, so it's time to bring those amenities back to the US", he can probably hurdle that criticism well enough.

    he appeals to the largest swath of moderate America who are tuned out and just want to hear that someone strong and professional will keep them in their comforts

    I mean, Biden appealed to these same voters by adopting half of Bernie Sanders's platform and half of Hillary Clinton's. Then he spent four years yelling at people for using TikTok and arguing the need to kill more brown people.

    Kelly's fine on paper, but if he opens his mouth and sounds like another "moderate Dem"... I think he's going to have the same kind of trouble Cuomo did.

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    [–] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    He would be 65 in 2029 when he actually took office. Can we get someone who is about 20 years younger?

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    [–] 17 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    He seems ready to fight, and seems fearless. He has my vote if he starts demanding trials, convictions, and jail time for the traitors and pedophiles.

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    [–] 14 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    ITT: People placing their hopes on a presidential race when they don't even know if they are even going to be able to have a legitimate rollover on the midterms.

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    Heads must roll for what the trump regime has done already and the billionaires and corporations that allowed and backed it. So any candidate must be the driving force of implementing those consequences, or get out of the way.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe he could be AOCs VP, maybe.

    Id have to look into his voting history first and his donors.

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    [–] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Honestly I'd love for him to run in the primary against a progressive.

    He's left of center centrist to be sure but miles ahead of that slimy ass Newsome.

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