Beware (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 152 points 7 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    I need an intel driver to turn the fucking useless onboard graphics off. for debian. any tips?

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    any tips?

    My laptop has this option in the bios settings Not sure if it's only for laptops but you could check there.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    I checked, it's the easiest option and isn't on my stupid MSI motherboard

    https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GL62M-7REX/Specification

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  • [–] 108 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I’ve learned it best to use nvidia drivers with nvidia cards and the AMD drivers with the AMD cards. I recommend this for performance.

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  • [–] 70 points 7 months ago

    I think it's more of a

    Open drivers vs proprietary drivers

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  • [–] 56 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    That's the thing with AMD drivers, they're the damn near perfect software. Doing lots of stuff yet you'd never know it's there. It stays nicely out of the user's way, you don't even have to think about installing them and shit just works

    Then there are the Nvidia drivers

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    They are not perfect, but their developers – 1 or 2 actually allocated to work on in-kernel drivers, such as Mario Limonciello – almost are.


    I used em dashes to avoid a comma party, I promise I am not a LLM bot

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    [–] 44 points 7 months ago (21 children)

    15 years ago this was true lol

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    3 years ago this was true. Not sure if nvidia works properly with wayland even now, though at least the trend is different now

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    It has no issues, NVIDIA just works these days (if you use a distro where you can choose to use proprietary drivers for it during installation)

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I mean yeah, but that’s a little like saying β€œcomputers all have WiFi capabilities these days, as long as you only buy motherboards with built in WiFi.” It’s a pretty large limitation to place on the user’s choice. Especially when Linux users like to meme about certain distros being better or worse.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It used to be that there was no option at all, on any distro. You'd have the broken proprietary drivers, or the open source reverse engineered one with half the performance and unreliability in specialty features.

    Since then Nvidia has shifted focus to get their drivers working properly, and there were also changes making them more open source, tho I'm not sure that'd mean the "proprietary driver" will go full foss at some point.

    If op is to be believed, the proprietsry driver is already a lot more stable, so it's now a software licensing issue not an unfixable technical issue.

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    [–] 39 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    When you want to do GPU processing for AI, crypto, video editing, etc, though, this gets reversed.

    Getting Cuda working on Linux with an nvidia card is relatively painless. Just a few well-documented commands, worked on the first try.

    I could never get AMD's equivalent to work on Linux, though, and it led me down a horrible rabbit-hole of trying a dozen different driver versions from a dozen different places, all with their own unique and quirky ways of installing... And it still never did work.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago*

    Thats just poor distro support, kind of like CUDA in the past.. ROCM should "just work" if it's shipped right. But it's not really a priority with maintainers.

    Now, if you're trying to run CUDA stuff with ROCM, that's a whole different story. The bast majority of GPU software has extremely poor ROCM support compared to CUDA, and some of this is definitely from AMD footgunning.

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    [–] 24 points 7 months ago* (15 children)

    i wish i could go to an amd card but i just upgraded my video card (geforce rtx 4060 ti) like 3 months before i decided to move to linux :(

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

    Jo, no problem! Just use the proprietary drivers and vulcan, cuda etc. Just works

    Especially with a recent card, like a 4060. Problematic are only the cards which are considered legacy by nvidia (I think older than the GTX 900 series), because they do not update their drivers for newer kernels. In these cases resorting to nouveau (in-kernel driver for nvidia cards) is your best bet, but you will not use the card’s full potential.

    Edit: One can of course use proprietary drivers with legacy cards if you use a distro in a legacy kernel. But having old kernel then comes with less compatibility to other devices, as backports generally take their time.

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    [–] 22 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Never had an issue with my Nvidia card. OBS can use the hardware encoder out of the box. Just a few weeks ago upgraded to a AMD card and had to set some "advanced" settings in OBS to do the same. Really happy overall, but after seeing this meme for years I expected rainbows and sunshine but was unpleasantly surprised in that regard.

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    [–] 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I'm running wayland with nvidia-open and nvidia-utils packages, and have never encountered any driver issues in both graphics and compute.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The only time I've ever really had issues with Nvidia drivers is when installing the meta package for CUDA (because it tends to include a previous version of the driver, which causes install/uninstall havok), or with laptops and hybrid graphics.

    But the laptop issue is almost completely gone with newer distros like Bazzite.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago*

    because it tends to include a previous version of the driver, which causes install/uninstall havok

    To be fair, this is a packaging/distro problem, as CUDA should always work (and be kept in sync with) the newest graphics driver.

    ROCM and OpenVINO (AMD and Intel) are even more of a pain, actually.

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    [–] 15 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    AMD should make drivers for nVidia hardware. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Intel be like that skeleton at the bottom underwater

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    In LMDE4, 5 and 6, I pretty much had to install the OEM NVIDIA driver because the open source Nouveau driver didn't quite cut it, but for AMD, the stock driver that comes with LMDE7 has worked fine for my purposes so far.

    I may change my tune if I try to run a more modern game*, but that will likely put me back in Frankendebian territory which caused me problems under LMDE6. (As you might surmise, I upgraded to new hardware and tried to do things as I'd always done them when LMDE6 was current.)

    * Minecraft notwithstanding, because it both is and isn't modern. That can get above 1000 FPS if I don't limit it.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    On one hand, setting up complicated stuff is a challenge and also fun.

    On the other hand, I don't wanna pay a company doing propreitery stuff.

    On the other feet, prices are increasing due to chatbot girlfriend arms race between richest dudes on earth; are GPUs really even worth it anymore?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    nvidia drivers are all dependant on who is implementing them

    I only ever have problems if the kernel is updated without the drivers, because I somehow updated before the video driver was included

    this is my experience for over 10 years now on Arch

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    [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    this has not been my experience with AMD drivers…

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  • [–] 69 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    The one you own is better cause no one can afford to choose anymore.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Well, can't say for everybody, but i have no trouble running nvidia gpu on Hyprland with nvidia-open drivers. Haven't spotted any troubles with Plasma or MangoWC either, even though i haven't used them for as long.

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    [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    A decade ago it used to be opposite. How far Nvidia has fallen.

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    [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It used to be this way and was one of my biggest complaints. It's no longer this way. Drivers for my Nvidia card works fine on my mint and arch setup.

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