When will it support GrapheneOS? I'm going to keep using last-gen used Pixels until another company comes up with an alternative.
GrapheneOS has some very strict requirements which basically means they will refuse to support anything except Pixel phones. Fairphone isn't in the business of making their own (security) chips so I doubt the Graphene team will ever consider them.
CalyxOS, arguably the next best thing, did have support for earlier Fairphones but that project is sort of in limbo now.
The Graphene team has also been very outspoken about how much they dislike Fairphone for this very reason.
I use /e/OS on my Fairphone 5. It's not a Graphene alternative as it's not a hardened OS, it's just Android without Google. Good enough for me, I'm not afraid of secret agents stealing my phone to extract data or whatever, I just don't want American big tech anywhere near my phone.
to be fair I don't think they like anything besides Google Pixel.
Yeah, this is true. They just seem to have a specific beef against Fairphone and /e/OS because it's presented as a privacy alternative (due to no big tech tracking), and the Graphene team believes they are the only ones with the security features to ensure true privacy (because of their... hardened malloc?).
Last time I heard they were working with someone to produce a phone with the needed features, but hadn't revealed who.
Yeah, I ran Calyx for a while - it was... not a great user experience. If I am forced to change at some point, I'll reconsider it. That said, Graphene's trying to move off of the Pixel platform. I just haven't looked to see if there are any updates since that piece of info reached me.
TPM chips are not a mythical thing that only Google makes.
STM makes the ST33 series of TPM that I would trust a hell of a lot more than google to not have a dozen government backdoors.
Microchip, Analog Devices, Infineon, NXP, and onsemi also make TPM chips of varying security levels. Infineon is the premium TPM maker with the highest security if I remember right, a German company.
The issue is they are 3-10โฌ for the chip alone, which is a significant BOM cost, and it takes a lot of very specific knowledge in firmware and software to actually implement and google probably keeps the android integration methods very hidden. It is very much an intentional vendor lock out.
I'm coming at the same desire from the other end, using my fairphone until I can jump ship for graphene.
People want Grapheneos on insecure phones, made by OEMs with a poor history of security patches, with an unlocked bootloader, and root. I personally say those people should use LineageOS because fundamentally that's not GrapheneOS is. The second you water it down from software that can't be hacked by any state actor to just another OS but marginally more secure the name becomes just another brand.
Im gonna be honest I don't see how that would help if anything it would only make things more confusing. That would require the GrapheneOS devs to maintain a separate and significantly less secure OS for what reason?
I was about to say the same thing!
I'm posting with one. I like it so far. waiting for the official lineageOS to be released, I'm running unofficial now.
Why not use /e/?
I'm just really used to lineage, I've used it for years on a lot of phones.
Did they already bring back the 3.5mm jack? o.O
Looks like not, which immediately ruins the phone
I don't really see why it's such a dealbreaker for so many. Hardly any phones have 3.5mm, and for those that don't, you can just put a dongle on the end of your existing wired headphones.
Because it's ubiquitous, allows headphones without needing charged, and allows movement around the jack as opposed to the USB c port.
It's a great design and the best part is that if it's included it doesn't preclude anyone from using Bluetooth headphones if they so choose.
Hardly any phones have 3.5mm NOW. Google started this shit, and I do not forgive. I do not forget.
However, there is simply no reason why the manufacturers SHOULDN'T put a second USB port down there, since it would allow for dongle-less use of wired headphones, listening while charging, open up many more niche uses for the hardware, AND it would provide a redundancy for what is, in most cases, the only method of charging and accessing the data on the device
*Apple started this shit, Google laughed at them. Initially, that is.
A USB-C dongle requires you to first insert the dongle and then insert the headphones. Otherwise, the phone doesn't register them.
It is a dealbreaker for me because I hate having to worry about batteries everywhere. I had some in my helmet, and the thing kept interrupting my music because it had to tell me the batteries were low. The entire trip, every damn minute.
Fuck that shit, I already have a battery, it is right in my phone.
And I am not going to spend more than 20โฌ on headphones either when you can get wired literally for free.
Agreed.
I'm so glad the vote ratio finally caught up to headphone jack jihadists lol
Phone makers need to understand that a missing headphone jack is a dealbreaker.
Tho it wouldn't be if companies would at least put two usb ports on the devices. I'd be fine using usb wired earbuds as long as I don't have to give my phone one of those dumb splitter tails.
is a dealbreaker.
*for you
Got mine yesterday!
I feel like I should start looking at shoulder holsters or other extremely cool accessories when phones are this big. How do you guys carry this shit? Cargo pants?
So cargo pants? I tried using a google pixel 9 (the smallest model) and found that I cannot sit down when the phone is in my pocket.
Is my penis too large?
We cant see, can ya post a pic? We're gonna need a banana in the pic for scale.
My phone is quite large and fits in all my pants pockets. And they're not cargo
Also penis too large bro what ๐
I would legit pay Fairphone extra at this stage if they would ship to Canada, either at my home or at a pickup location like Staples, Canada Post, or Purolator.
Agreed. I'm honestly a bit surprised they haven't moved into the Canadian market. Heck, I heard that their international insurance ppl let you buy them in the USA, home of Google Fascists, but you still can't buy them in Canada, a country that's had a significant trend to decouple from US tech for over a year now.
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