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[–] 130 points 7 months ago (15 children)

There is no way MAGA will accept a Democrat victory in the Midterms, especially if it flips either chamber.

There is no way Trump leaves in 2028.

We ALL already know this in our hearts and our brains. We have to talk about it, and internalize it, and start making contingency plans for those nearly CERTAIN situations.

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    [–] 65 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    This is the line. Let's be honest. That's the red line. If he actually crosses that line you should do things that the World mods will ban me for saying. But that's it. That's the point where any semblance of democracy is totally gone. Where even the most neoliberal Democrat has to know that voting no longer means anything. That's the point where you have to make a choice. That would be the final Point wherein there is a line of the sand you either put on the red hat and fall in line or you play back. Some would argue we've already reached that point mind you, but I think that would be the last reasonable line.

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  • [–] 37 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    This is the line?

    No, this is the goalpost moving.

    Anyone who didn't see this coming was either living under a rock or mockingly dismissing everyone telling them it's coming as Russian bots trying to take votes away from Democrats.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Yes, this is the Red Line. We have never suspended elections in this country for any reason, not even during the Civil War. The Midterms are the LAST CHANCE for Democrats to begin to take power back from MAGA legally, and if that last opportunity is stolen, then the only option left is violence.

    Canceling elections, for any reason, is a BRIGHT RED LINE, and we must not allow our elected officials to cross that line, or allow our elected officials to look the other way. We have to let them ALL know that the Midterm election will go on as usual, and MAGA will accept the outcome, no matter what it is.

    And we have to also let them know that if MAGA cancel elections, and our Dem representatives allow it, they will BOTH suffer in the inevitable violence that will follow. Whether you actively committed treason, or just say back and let it happen, you are equally guilty.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago

    Let’s be honest. That’s the red line

    There's been many red lines this past year. And this one isn't even a surprise move, it's been claimed loudly semi-continuously for five years now. Yet here we are.

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  • [–] 56 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Why wouldn’t he commit more crimes? He’s been committing crimes with impunity his entire life. Who’s going to stop him?

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  • [–] 52 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    Wait, are we still all thinking he'll peacefully leave the white house after the shit he pulled last time?

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

    It's not even about him, it's the party. He didn't start the campaign to fix elections, the party did after they successfully bullied the democrats out of the 2000 election and filibustered a recount with court challenges and Ginsberg crossed over and endorsed the steal.

    You can draw a straight line from the stolen 2000 election through 2020 to now. And it was stolen in multiple ways, from voter suppression, purging valid voters from rolls, putting faulty machines in democratic districts and otherwise sabotaging their use, throwing ballots in the trash from democratic districts, and so on.

    This doesn't end with the president.

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  • [–] 51 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    REPUBLICANS should get Sole Control over who Wins Elections? They MUST Need some FUNDING for that! Let's GIVE it to Them!

    -Chuck Schumer (D) and Hakeem Jeffries (D)!

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    [–] 43 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    More treason.

    In a healthy nation the Republican party would be disbanded and outlawed.

    But this isn't a healthy nation, so assuming we get to continue having elections and they are fair and the Republicans lose, I expect American's hamster brains to completely forget about this in one or two election cycles and start flirting with letting these traitors have power again.

    This dipshit proved who he was the first time around and we only managed to get through one term without him before letting a child back into the Oval Office. We're a very stupid nation.

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    [–] 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    I mean the food, seats, and extra stuff is a lot better than AMC. The only reason I went to the AMC near me was for iron lung and so many seats had stains and the bathroom was ehhh.

    Edit: Not sure how it went to this post, my b

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  • [+] 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 35 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Trump’s comments come as Republicans in Congress push a bill that would enable massive voter purges, impose photo ID requirements, and ban ranked-choice voting, universal mail-in ballots, and the acceptance of mailed ballots that arrive after Election Day.

    And you just KNOW the Democraps are going to let them have it all too.

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Surely the guys with big trucks flying Don't Tread on Me flags are against this

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    [–] 28 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    The thing is, there's no mechanism for nationalizing voting, and I don't really see a clear path for Republicans to do that in the next nine months. They'd have to pass legislation to do that, which would be extremely difficult given their margins in congress. Even then, states control elections as a function of the Constitution, and while the Supreme Court is happy to approve whatever unconstitutional bullshit Trump dreams up, it will take times to get through the courts. He could try to seize control of the voting process from states, but I don't know that he has the infrastructure to manage the whole voting process through the executive branch, and the fact that he's asking the Republicans to do this for him makes me think he knows this. Either way, any kind of coup on the election process would face the same legal challenges as legislation.

    That doesn't mean we shouldn't be extremely worried. I think it's unlikely that the Republicans will, "nationalize the voting," but I think it's very likely he'll send federal goons in to, "prevent voter fraud," (AKA suppress the vote).

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    The Executive Order has been their "clear path" to all sorts of shit they have no right doing.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, but most of those have either not been achieved yet or have only been achieved because they were relatively easy. He tried to abolish the 14th Amendment through EO on day one, and it's just getting to the Supreme Court now. He's been able to illegally dissolve federal agencies because the Republicans in Congress have abdicated their power, and destroying something is much easier than building it.

    Even if he signs an EO to take over the elections tomorrow, he'll still face legal challenges that will likely wind up in the Supreme Court, and he'll still need to build out the infrastructure to run these elections federally, something the federal government has never done. I'm not saying that he can't steal the elections, or that we shouldn't be worried, but the idea that he's just going to, "federalize," elections in fifteen states before the midterms seems pretty unlikely.

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    [–] 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    He's been saying this kind of thing all along, either canceling or rigging the elections. Why is it only a fire now?

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    The election was quite close in Minnesota, and Harris won it. Of all the states won by the Democrats, Minnesota had the closest margin.

    Is his plan as blatant as taking the demographic that voted against him, loading them into a van, and disappearing them?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/election/2024/us/results

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    [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    Republicans” should.

    Not the States, not bipartisan whatever…just them. That tells you everything.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    Quickly: let’s do nothing!!!

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    So less state rights? And more big government? The cornerstone of the Republican party?

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    The party of small government strikes again.

    Pathetic.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    We all knew he would do anything and everything possible to stop the midterms. He knows he will go to prison if he gets impeached and charged, so he is waging a full on war on every right we have.

    This november will be very interesting with thousands of DHS gestapo at local voting station intimidating voters, GOP refusing to swear in democratic winners, and the hourly posts by the president telling his cult everything is rigged and they are all going to have to fight for something BS.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You want to nationalize the voting system? Okay, get congressional republicans to submit a bill for an amendment to the constitution, pass it through both houses, institute a constitutional convention, get 2/3 of states to ratify.

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    [–] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I’d like to see one person one vote for president.

    Just not under this crook.

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    [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    If by now Americans don’t believe him when the orange shitstain talks… they deserve the inevitable dictatorship they themselves installed.

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