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I use Firefox as my daily driver but sometimes sites just work better on a chromium based browser. I had been using Brave but it seems like they keep adding on more bloat (crypto, VPN, AI) and I'm over it.

What chromium based browser would you recommend and why?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Put in another vote for Vivaldi. It's definitely lightweight. I've got an older server I keep around (for YAR HAR FIDDLE DEE-DEE purposes) and Vivaldi's the Chromium-based browser that works best on it.

That said, the default browser I use on that thing is Waterfox Classic. Vivaldi's lightweight, but it's not as light as that.

Another note: a few years ago I would've actually been able to recommend Edge because to my surprise it actually worked pretty damn well, especially if you were trying to get sites to get Windows-oriented web-apps to function correctly on Linux. Unfortunately they've since pushed several changes that have made it truly obnoxious. Big fat memory hog that tries to load "recommended" content in the background and won't stop sending to/receiving from sites even after you close the window/tab.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also have a server for Linux ISOs. You can never have too many ISOs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can never have too many ISOs.

Much like how you can never have too much cilantro.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you want to torture yourself like any good Linux user, you get Ungoogled Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have been using ungoogled chromium for a while. I don't exactly get what you mean by torture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adding plugins feels like you’re hacking the matrix’s mainframe

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

none. chromium is a google (-endorsed) product, who put their own little tracking tidbits into the chromium project. if you still want to use a chromium-based browser, i have two 'suggestions':

  • brave. renowned in the privacy community but has had a few suspicious moments, and honestly i just don't trust their whole big-tech thing they got going on.
  • ungoogled-chromium. basically just the chromium browser but without the google shit in it. no extra privacy-advancing features as far as i'm aware though, and extensions don't seem to work.

now if you really want a good browser, go for either of the following firefox-like browsers:

  • firefox with arkenfox user.js. firefox as you know and love it, with the arkenfox privacy tinkering. i haven't tested it and its apparently a bit difficult to install and configure, but i've heard its really helpful with privacy.
  • librewolf. a privacy-first firefox fork developed by an independent developer and contributors, no big-tech bullshit. my personal daily driver.

anyway, sorry for the rant, but there u go.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which sites work better in Chrome? I'm forced to use the Google suite at work, and I do everything within Firefox. Even sites that insist they only work in Chrome have always worked for me merely by switching the user-agent header

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes I am very interested to know which websites don't work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I had issues with what my work use for online training with Firefox, not often, but occasionally a module will just break. I just use edge in those cases, given its basically chrome anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The website i work on has some pages that absolutely don’t work on Firefox. I know this because I often have to switch to chrome to see if the code is broke or the browser isn’t rendering correctly.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly none of them. You can have my firefox when you pry it from my cold, dead, hands.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Agreed, comrade. We shall defend firefox and Ublock Origin to the very fucking end.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not what they asked though, they're already using Firefox and they don't intend to drop it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Personally I'm fine with sites not working as well (OP's issue). If nothing else, I'm incredibly stubborn, so I'd even suffer slow loading and performance that resembles the early 90s if means I don't have to use anything chromium.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but they said some sites work with Chrome, but not Firefox? I'm sure there are some sites (that I presume are badly-coded), but I haven't encountered any notable examples.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arc (Mac-only for now) is pretty great and has been my daily driver for a while now. Lots of great quality-of-life improvements, a great approach to tab management, and new optional AI features that are useful instead of annoying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not open source and last I checked you had to sign in to use it. Can’t imagine why people would use it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I carefully hid some of the reasons I use it in the parent comment

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, that’s a hilarious response, but what I meant should have been obvious even if my phrasing was poor. I have trouble understanding why one would believe these features outweigh software freedom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just giving you a hard time. I prefer FOSS generally, but most of my time on a desktop is spent on the web, and Arc's tab/space management is far ahead of anything else right now. It genuinely makes my life easier. The UX is thoughtfully designed and cohesive; even if I could get close to this setup with Firefox extensions (and I tried), it would be janky (and it was).

I'm very much hoping some of Arc's UX and workflow ideas will be picked up by browsers generally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the follow up. Maybe I’ll give it another spin. I’ve been tinkering with floorp but it isn’t polished.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thorium, because its fast, lightweight and open-source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fast? I wonder which security features they cut out of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I switched from Firefox to Vivaldi last year and never regretted it. I like the ad blocking that it has as standard and the uBlock origin plugin makes it 99% perfect. It's pretty light weight and the tab stacks work good. No clue if those stacks are chromium or vivaldi, but they work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't use one but I did watch a YouTube video yesterday praising one called thorium. I might give it a try myself out of curiosity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I switched to Thorium browser, seems pretty good. There's also Tempest Browser which is still in Beta, but is a bit like Brave but without the Crypto and some other features. I recommend Thorium, tbh. Seems to work well and has a lot of performance patches added, as well as security. More here: https://youtu.be/naDYUVFs1-8?si=eC1CtA4q-oF1L8ix

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For chromium, brave, though I'd just stick to Firefox it I were you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Vivaldi. Why? Highly cuztomizable.

Though slower than other chromium based browsers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds unsuitable then

It's just as a fallback in case a site isn't tested on firefox and uses some obscure & nonstandard API, so customisable doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ungoogled Chromium then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This, and maybe even opera?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Octopus1348 2 points 1 year ago

Just native Chromium, or if you don't want any Google stuff, Ungoogled Chromium. They both use the same UI as Google Chrome. I recommend these because they have no such bloat, and if you want a chromium-based browser for rare usage, it does it's thing.

On an unrelated note, I use GNOME Web on Linux and Safari on macOS (they are both based on WebKit). GNOME Web has some problems, but I can't give up the animation of two finger scrolling between pages and smooth scrolling on touchpad. I use Firefox as a fallback browser on Linux, because I have never really needed something that is specifically Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't use chromium, did not test currently.

But I just saw a video about a chromium browser : Thorium.

It's chromium but with many hardware acceleration, speed, and compatibility enhancements coming from multiple sources and from the guy developing it on github, making it very fast and nicer to use than default chromium.

It has Google sync, so it's not ungoogled, but it has way less bload and more privacy than chrome.

https://youtu.be/naDYUVFs1-8?si=Rd6Un0OKANEQHktH

The link to the browser website : https://thorium.rocks/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I’m gonna test this out for a couple of weeks. Thanks for letting me know about it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just use Chromium and go through all settings once to disable every function that isn't "show me the website behind the URL I just typed". Then I install ublock and switch the default search engine to Qwant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do the same thing as well. I still can't determine the difference between unGoogled Chromium and Chromium, but my assumption is that chromium is closer to unGoogle Chromium than Chrome, and just require some of the default settings to be adjusted...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just tried out Ungoogled. It doesn't let you choose Google as search engine, doesn't come out of the box with the ability to install extensions (which depends on Google's Chrome Web Store), is missing some options that use Google's servers if activated, is stripped of all Google design elements (which gives it a very minimalistic look), and has very privacy-oriented defaults.

Which makes it pretty jarring that there's still a "Google and me" tab in the settings that contains almost no options because everything Google-related was removed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in the same boat!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Just disable the crap and keep using Brave.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Chrome! It’s nice how it syncs with my Google profile.

If I need 2 browsers for some reason, I also use Edge.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago