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[–] 121 points 7 months ago* (20 children)

I eat white button mushrooms raw, after a quick rinse of the dirt. No problem, as long as I get them from the store, properly cultivated by the shroom experts.

The image posted looks sorta similar, but is not a white button mushroom.

Thanks Google, AI has no fucking business telling anyone about mushrooms.

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  • [–] 107 points 7 months ago* (14 children)

    The image posted looks sorta similar, but is not a white button mushroom.

    This mushroom is almost certainly the reason why it's drilled in so hard that you shouldn't eat random mushrooms in the woods unless you are absolutely sure it's safe.

    Destroying Angel mushrooms look like puffball mushrooms when they're initially fruiting, and then grow to look like button mushrooms before they reach full maturity. If you eat one of these you'll get severe abdominal pain and vomit for around 24 hours and then show signs of recovery. However, by that point it's almost certainly too late, and organ failure and death is soon to follow

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    So in a fucked up way, those TikTok kids swallowing Tide pods a few years ago are smarter than Gemini recommending “yummy button mushrooms”?

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    They can save people if caught in time. First things first, eat charcoal, crush and mix with water and drink. Not briquettes either actual charcoal it soaks up toxins and you excrete them instead of absorbing.

    But the hospitals have liver protective substances, including milk thistle root extract they give.

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  • [–] 70 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    As the great Pratchett wrote: All mushrooms are edible. Some just once.

    I guess Gemini used that as base for its answer.

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    [–] 51 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Remember business ethics lol?

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  • [–] 75 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    "Corporate personhood" should imply corporate imprisonment and corporate execution.

    Your business is directly, knowingly responsible for someone's death? business license terminated, no ifs, ands or buts.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Corporate personhood implies the opposite of what you want though. It means that the corporation can enter into contracts and be sued for breaches of them, but you want the officers of a corporation to be sued and held responsible directly.

    Your business is directly, knowingly responsible for someone’s death? business license terminated

    Even with corporate personhood, a business can't know things, only its employees can. If an employee is directly and knowingly responsible for someone's death, they should go to jail - but they already can be.

    But if you're talking about the current example, who would be directly responsible for a death occurring because of a misidentified mushroom?

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (30 children)

    Kinda wild how people that know their mushrooms could just go into the woods and get a highly effective poison. I'm surprised mushroom murders aren't more common

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    I feel like the difficulty in poisoning someone is not obtaining the poison in the first place but the delivery and getting away with it

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago* (6 children)

    Hmm this person knew the victim, had a motive, and was really into mycology, and the autopsy had signs of poisoning from a rare mushroom…

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Good deniability though.
    Be publicly into micology and commonly collect mushrooms to cook when you have guests over.
    Only issue would be to somehow plausably not poison yourself to death. Maybe taking little enough you survive.

    And take care you aren't quite known as fully competent, spread the air of knowledge without any solid proof or association.
    I'll look like you were a sham and amateur overestimating themselves.

    Or just accidentally run them over with a car.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    There was that case in Australia last year, the poisoner just did a really bad job at covering her tracks. There probably are intelligent people able to get away with it that we don't hear about. It's crazy.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    I mean, you can also just walk into a hardware store. Or the cleaning isle of your grocery store.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah, but with a mushroom there is a natural explanation or may not be as obvious as "someone fed this guy bleach".

    People will eat a mushroom pizza if you give it to them

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    You would need to know how to id a destroying Angel and then somehow put in someones food without them immediately identified as suspicious. Also it causes specific symptoms too, and likely would ask questions of a strange mushroom

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    [–] 27 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I wonder why the person who created the original post didn't share the prompt? It must be hard to farm engagement when you're being honest. Here's what Gemini actually says:

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Different prompts yield different results

    I've noticed that when you tell AI some lie and that it's true, it will generally just go with what you're saying.

    If I say I'm a god, AI likely will just go with it and in no time support my delusional thoughts.

    Not this particular example, but I've had multiple results where AI gave me the wrong answer because I told it something incorrect prior.

    If I were to tell AI that I found a yummie button mushroom, then the picture, there is a good chance it would respond like in this example

    Part of the problem here is that AI is mostly done by companies with billions of investments and in turn they NEEEEEDDDDD engagement, so they all made their AI as agreeable as possible just so people would like it and stay, with results like these becoming much more "normal" than it should or could be

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    [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    That bastard right there is why I don't pick white mushrooms.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    What is it and how do I avoid it?

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    @Godort@lemmy.ca mentioned it in another reply in this post. It's a Destroying Angel Mushroom. you usually avoid mushrooms like that by only foraging those who have no simulacrae and buying the other mushrooms in the store, or by intensely studying the differences and hoping you are lucky this time.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    If you want to get into foraging, spend a year or more going foraging and only taking pictures. It's a lot of fun to find a new species that you haven't found before. You'll also get familiarized with your local ecosystem. Never eat any mushroom without a positive ID. AI can give you a starting point for identification, but not a positive ID. https://mushroomexpert.com/ is a very up to date resource for getting a positive ID

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    Also, if you are a beginner, don't pick white mushrooms. Just learn to identify couple easily differentiated local species and pick those, then later add one and one and so on. Don't blindly trust internet as your source either; the mushrooms from different continents can look the same but be very different. Get a new edition of some mushroom book written in your country

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    As a forager, I live in the middle of a forest, I do hunt mushrooms for myself, I even have shaggy manes that grow wild in my yard. There are tasty and safe ones out there to find in season. It's something even people who live in a city can do. Parks hold some very interesting free foods if you know what you're looking at.

    BUT, you better learn from a local expert who has been hunting locally for years. They know hat grows locally and how to identify them. Using your phone or a book is helpful, but never definitive. Pictures can lie. And even then, there can be a tiny risk.

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    [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Is that the xkcd mushroom

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Using LLMs for anything that can kill you is definitely Darwin Award material. I mean, everybody knows they hallucinate, right?

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