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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 66 points 6 days ago

It is collapsing, though not because of any 250 year tendency.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 45 points 6 days ago

250 years is an observed pattern, but is not implied to be the cause

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[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 days ago

Yep. The US Empire is collapsing because the global south is developing, and pivoting more towards south-south trade and mutual development over naked imperialism. The string of recent hard aggression is trying to install compradors to keep this scheme going for a bit longer, but the industrial base of the empire is hollowed out.

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I see this meme all the time, which is an oversimplification. The 250 year time frame that people ascribe to is usually assigned to a country's lifetime, but really, the time frame is the average length of a golden era of a country, not its existence. Rome lasted for 2,000 years and China today still exists. When the Chinese talk about this "250 year" thing, they would refer back to how long certain dynasties ruled, not China's existence. Same with Rome having had its peak come and go while it existed until 1453. France also has had several golden ages as the bigger power in Europe from middle ages to Napoleonic era.

America won't cease to exist, but it will not be the power it once was, and that's okay (except for the ultranationalists). It's okay to be humble.

[-] AEsheron@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

My first thought was Egypt was old enough that there were ancient Egyptian scholars studying ancient-er Egypt. I could see it as a particular form of gov generally lasted that long and new dynasties etc would reset the counter. Your explaination makes much more sense.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Statistical fallacy #420: Assuming the value of a random arbitrary element will necessarily be close to the mean or median of all elements.

[-] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The 250 year timeframe is made up and even if it wasn't the US couldn't realistically be described as an empire until some time in the 1900's. Until then it was "just" a genocidal colonial power like the others. I guess you could make an argument that it became an empire around the time of Teddy or the monroe doctrine, but I wouldnt

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[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago

Unified Roman Empire which lasted from 27BC to 395AD (422 years): 👀

[-] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 9 points 5 days ago

The Roman Empire really lasted from 27BC to 1453, the west was a dump when it fell, almost all the ressources and money and population were in the east anyway.

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago

Yes, that’s why I specified Unified Roman Empire ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 23 points 6 days ago

I just know my shithole red state is gonna become even worse after the collapse. Heres to.hoping Cascadia will accept my family.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

i think they haven't been an empire for just as long as it had existed?

they were settlers first, right? with the indigenous genocide and all.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Thanks for trying to buy us a little more time.

[-] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

so you're saying going to war against a neighboring nation to expand your territory is not what an empire does?

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[-] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Mandated Constitutional Convention every 200 years wouldn’t be a bad idea. Rewrite the whole thing.

Maybe also mandate the execution of the 1% at the same time. A solid reset.

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[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago

My local pub is older than your "empire"

[-] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago
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[-] lmagitem@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

So Trump files leak is the first day of the Civil War?

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