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[-] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 1 week ago

Freedom and democracy means no home.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 week ago

You're free to choose which of three shitty corporate house hoarders you rent from.

[-] MasterDeeLuke@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Freedom and democracy means nothing because those two things are incompatible according to people like Peter Thiel these days.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

Regarding Germany and Sweden: Vonovia is a real state company that buys homes and rents them. It owns some 600.000 housing units, meaning that literally tomorrow you could take all of the rent contracts, tear them up, write ownership contracts to the tenants, and instantly solve 1mn+ lives without hurting anyone but the pockets of one company

Again: YOU COULD SOLVE 1MN PEOPLES' LIVES AT A PEN'S STROKE AND IT'S NOT DONE BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A DISGUSTING SYSTEM

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago

The people of Berlin voted to take the apartments held by Deutsche Wohnen into public ownership, another property hoarding company. The language of the referendum made it essentially binding, yet the Berlin senate refuses to move forward. A second referendum was even passed with a practical law proposal and still nothing.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Wasn't there also a referendum on rent control which passed, and shortly after application got taken down by the supreme court? What a fucking joke of a democracy

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Germany in a nutshell.

[-] cornishon@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago

It's almost as if those politicians are not representing the citizens but the landlords. Naaah, that can't be, we vooooted for them!

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

But what about the lives of the shareholders and their value! What then! pearl-clutch

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

They can keep living their lives, only that they'll have to work like everyone else. In a way, you could say that they would be FORCED to LABOR ;)

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Shareholders WORKING? oooaaaaaaauhhh

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

In the west the numbers are absolutely way lower than that, and that's in addition to it being home "owner"ship (where the real owner is the bank you're paying a mortgage to until you die)

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Like there is absolutely no fucking way >50% of people in the U.S. own a home, even if they're still paying on it. 10000% made up bullshit

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago

The US is an especially bad case because people move so frequently in the US. And almost no one buys a home with the full amount up front. Taken together this means that most homes are never fully paid off and the house is just sold and a new one bought before any "real" ownership (i.e. the bank isn't able to reposess your house if you stop making mortgage payments) occurs.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe not among millenials, but take boomers into the equation and it starts to look more realistic

[-] Marat@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 week ago

What I found really funny was someone commenting about Albania's rate one time was like "now do the percentage under 30 years old" and it's just like...2026-30...hmm 1996, I wonder if anything happened around that decade that might have changed anything

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 week ago

The same phenomenon is occurring all across the former socialist bloc. I can personally confirm that this is also happening in Romania.

[-] cornishon@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Absolutely, also in Poland.

[-] ihexx@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago

houses are for speculation, not living ~ margaret thatcher probably

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 week ago

My personal take: a coporation doesn't have a phyical body and thus has absolutely no need for a home. And a human has one body so a human needs just one home.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

Silly tankie you just don't understand basic economics if we don't run the orphan crushing machine constantly then the imaginary line will stop going up

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago

Two socialists, three former socialists. How does Crapitalism still have so many defenders!? ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ™

[-] Conselheiro@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Cool fact: paying rent increases GDP!

All of those "average income went up" graphs mean absolutely nothing if rent cost growth overshadowed that increase. Remember that whenever somebody says "capitalism increased average wealth in X country", specially if X country historically had a non-commodified economy.

Take a rural country where the majority of people have rural housing, make 50% of that country pay rent and watch the line go up! "Progress"!

[-] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago

Hmm, these people have all their basic needs met. We should seize and enclose their needs, so that we can infinitely increase GDP when we sell them back!

[-] Soot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Every lib ever: But too much owning your own home is bad because.. morshupls

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 14 points 1 week ago

I'd be interested in homes owned outright, no mortgage.

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 week ago

I would be very interested in that as well. How many people in the US "buy" a house by taking out a mortgage and then don't even get close to fully paying off the mortgage before moving again, "selling" the previous house and "buying" another one?

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 1 week ago

Or sign it over to the state to get 6 flipping hours a week of in-home assistance when they need 30 or 24-7?

[-] durduramayacaklar@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago

But, my influencer said owning a house isn't economically feasible anymore. He told me that investing in bitcoin would be more feasible economically.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

curious. what happened here? thonk

[-] Conselheiro@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Rapid fire sarcastic Reddit quips because neurons activated

How can you be free if you're pinned down to a home? True liberty is being able to get an Airbnb anywhere!

Those homes are actually granted by the government to keep people compliant, dissidents get their homes taken away.

Those statistics are all fake, I've been to <country> last week and the streets were filled with homeless people.

That's because if you're homeless you get arrested/executed and don't count in the stats

My grandfather had his five houses confiscated in <country>

That's because <ethnicity> is not counted as "people".

But their housing quality is bad, it's better to have few really good homes for rich people.

But most people live cramped in 10 people single-room apartments.

Now look at a capitalist country and use those as a "accusation is confession" bingo!

Edit: apparently <> is a markdown code?

[-] MasterDeeLuke@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

You will own nothing and be happy vs Everyone will own everything and be (actually) happy.

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