527
Just use Librewolf
I really like the Zen browser. It's Firefox-based, open source and privacy focused with AI removed but it's also really pretty and is built around vertical tabs
Zen browser my beloved 🥰
I love zen browser and its workspaces. I just cannot use any other Firefox forks anymore without it. It's more than just containers in Firefox.
Ia this just desktop? No mobile?
For the time being yeah. I still use Firefox on mobile myself but I do hope they release a mobile version at some point
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
For those interested
https://librewolf.net/installation/
https://codeberg.org/librewolf/issues/issues/1919
Thanks to @acockworkorange@mander.xyz for the context below.
The settings that Mozilla packaged in were the main big ones, Claude, ChatGPT etc, it didn’t look like any of them were locally hosted or even if a locally hosted model could be chose. Local AI… where the model itself and all the token are processed on either your own machine or another machine controlled by you certainly isn’t violating privacy, but as I said the choices on offer were none of these.
LibreWolf by default gets rid of anything that seeks to abuse your right to privacy, you won’t even find Google or Bing in your search engine. Naturally this will also apply to AI providers. Unfortunately, at the moment, we can’t trust Mozilla and by extension with AI items so these things were removed. That doesn’t mean you can’t install third party AI extensions.
Also you can host your own search engine for even more privacy.
load more comments
(2 replies)
As a libreworlf user, I'd have to advise some caution to regular users. A lot of sites are broken as images won't load and "fancier" web apps don't work super well either. Yes it's an easy fix, but expecting someone to go look in the config files to get an image to load is too much for a lot of people
That's why I recommend Waterfox instead to non technical users
load more comments
(6 replies)
I think even with Librewolf you need to open the about:config page and disable browser.ml settings.
afaik is that fixed by now - the team strongly opposes ai and stated that they want to keep it as clean as possible
Oh, glad to hear that. I still check out of privacy-guarding habit.
Fair and valid.
I switched from Firefox to Librewolf about a month ago and it's been wonderful. I can't imagine what it would take for me to switch back to Firefox. I'll probably ride Librewolf until the project dies or gets corrupted.
The defaults are bad and some options are either: fully protect fingerprinting OR no protection at all
load more comments
(3 replies)
given what "edge" means among the teens these days, microsoft really should go back to the old browser name.....microsoft goon
I don't get what was wrong with the name of Internet Explorer.
Marketing sucks, IE was forever tainted. Like now, even if Copilot ran entirely on solar power and cured cancer, solved all hardest math problems, somehow achieved world peace and solved hunger, etc, people would still hate it.
load more comments
(1 replies)
FYI if you want to edit the Firefox policies directly and save it in /etc/firefox/policies/policies.json, this is the file they are using
"policies": {
"DisableFirefoxStudies": true,
"DisableTelemetry": true,
"DontCheckDefaultBrowser": true,
"FirefoxHome": {
"SponsoredStories": false,
"SponsoredTopSites": false,
"Stories": false
},
"GenerativeAI": {
"Enabled": false
},
"SearchEngines": {
"Remove": [
"Perplexity"
]
}
}
}`This shows how unhinged the whole recent hate on Firefox is. Turning off GenAI is literally one single setting AND Mozilla is doing things infinitely better than others (e.g. the translation feature is completely local, and having a chatbot in the sidebar is opt-in)
That's because the people who are fine or happy with firefox aren't the type of people to talk about it, the vocal ones are the people that have complaints
I get a lot of hate for it but some AI inclusions are genuinely good.
Firefox's (local, FOSS) AI translation is infinitely better than scraping all the info and sending it to Google Translate servers, and nobody will convince me otherwise.
The screen reader improvements that use AI are good as well. Has anybody here used screen readers for web pages? They are awful. It's good that someone is willing to improve them. My sister is blind so this matters a lot to me.
The (locally generated) AI assisted link previews aren't for me as I imagine they're unnecessarily taxing on older PCs, but they're not exactly an evil inclusion. I can see it being a useful feature.
I'm not a fan of the LLM sidebar, but it's opt-in and you can at least choose open models or even host your own. Plus there's the unfortunate truth that many people that Firefox is trying to win over ("normies") now expect features like that.
The hate is so overblown. Everyone is so negative and absolutist about everything all of the time. It's exhausting.
This shows how unhinged the whole recent hate on Firefox is. Turning off GenAI is literally one single setting
We heard of that "kill switch" way, way after the general outrage. Also, other software and services have an "AI killswitch" that conveniently fails to work from time to time, and is fixed only when people notice it.
It's not unhinged to point finger at someone doing something that, from experience, as always turned bad. Also, if you think the hate (I use your word, I'd say distrust) for Firefox is only related to the recent "AI" push, you're severely misinformed.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
Great move for those that don't want to migrate, but I'd recommend just switching to Vivaldi if you like chromium browsers, librewolf if you are used to Firefox, and if you use edge you aren't even reading this so whatever.
Edit: I guess if you can get this to work on a work computer where edge is your only browser option perhaps, that would be nice.
load more comments
(2 replies)
Shopping features: coupon codes
This feature doesn't seem like the others.
It kind of is. For example, Edge will automatically pop up in the corner at checkout and offer coupon codes, most of them will never work, then they'll steal the affiliate revenue from whoever actually sent you to the site in the first place, or add an affiliate link where it didn't previously exist, so that the site now has more expenses that are just... paying Microsoft for no reason, making everything you buy more expensive in the long run.
It pops up whether you want it or not, it's convoluted to disable, it slows down your browser when it's running, it financially harms the shops you buy from, and it often just lies about having coupons to waste your time while pretending it's helping you.
If you're familiar with the controversy around the Honey coupon addon, there are a lot of parallels in terms of privacy, ethics etc.
I switched to Watefox myself. It is comfy and no AI.
load more comments
(1 replies)
or just download vivaldi or librewolf.
load more comments
(2 replies)
Would anyone know if this would work for all Firefox derivatives as well? Zen browser in my case. Also would it work for flatpak installations as well?
Does Zen Browser even include the AI shit from Mozilla? I know for a fact that neither Waterfox nor Librewolf do.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Or just use Waterfox.
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 22 Jan 2026
527 points (98.3% liked)
Technology
80724 readers
3511 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related news or articles.
- Be excellent to each other!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
- Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS