I see a lot of piefed posts on Lemmy - are we not federated across so that we're getting the milk without needing to buy the cow?
I'm gonna fuckin buy it and milk it and treat it tenderly
It is still important to support the better project, be it with our attention, or with our money/donations. What "better" means here depends on the metric.
Again, in this time and age, specially with everything going on around the world, I would hope that there is more thought about using/buying something.
I mean, I don't jump from trend to trend, so I'll support Lemmy until either the project gets depreciated and no more updates happen. I can still see everything because piefed is federated, so why jump from platform to platform every few months? What features really are there that make a difference?
For me I jumped the ship because ever since I got introduced to Lemmy, the knowledge of who the main Lemmy devs are left a really sour aftertaste to everything.
Piefed doesn't have this baggage and as you say - Lemmy and Piefed can federate so I can still keep connected in the communities. And you can export your Lemmy profile and import to Piefed so the switch is really easy (though saved posts don't get imported, but oh well).
Piefed lists comments from crossposts together, grouped by post, so there is less repetition due to crossposts.
Piefed lets me tag users so I can mark who is a dumbass and not worth replying to, which is nice because I block fewer users and don't miss out on their posts that are fine because their comments elsewhere are terrible.
The two things I don't like about piefed is that they don't have a compact view for image posts and they don't make the modlog easy to get to or search.
Piefed has flairs, custom feeds, events, scheduled posting, hashtags, word filters, emote reactions.
Not really. I think its more like everyone gets free milk but the lemmy milk has tankies in it.
Why vs when we can just interop?
We are not like traditional websites. When one community does well, we can all do well.
Piefed users comment and post to lemmy and via versa.
Piefed and Lemmy are act-pub/fediverse software systems, same with Mastodon and many others. Since Lemmy and Piefed are so similar in their structure though as link aggregators that people vote and comment on you could think of them as the same network with different clients.
I switched from Lemmy to Piefed somewhere around piefed's 1.15 version as I recall. On a technical front Piefed is a solid margin ahead in admin and usability features, at least as of when I switched. I haven't noticed a major performance difference, but mine is a single user instance so that might be better shown at a larger scale. Lemmy was a bit easier to deploy initially since there wasn't a need to have anything compile locally but rather just pull an image and go.
Ethically, I'm less concerned using Piefed than Lemmy. The devs of Lemmy are notoriously vocal in their support of Russia/China/Korea, and basically anything that could be considered in opposition of western liberal/progressive policies. This is troublesome since there is the potential for updates being made that help create even more aggressively divisive bubbles than we already have in many parts of the fedi. Those could be applied to any software of course, but the Lemmy devs make their stances quite visible in that regard.
There are a lot of tankies on lemmy, but I've only seen it on a couple of instances. It's not worth the time to make common cause with them I've learned, they just want to make the cheap point of west bad, not fix anything, their whole point is it can't be fixed. As if the alternative of getting a one party state would lead to a better outcome. They can't even have their own opinions or make up their own minds it appears, they need permission from their leaders to even agree on something not already endorsed.
I have no idea. I'm a vanilla, semi-norm who came from Reddit, mainly because they banned me after 15 years of active and mostly chill engagement.
I'm basically just a slightly opinionated guy who's interested in what other people have to say on a variety of subjects.
I'm only dimly aware of PieFeed. I like lemmy as it feels like early Reddit and I access it through the boost app on Android, which was the peak Reddit experience before they locked down the APIs.
I've no interest in spreading myself over multiple platforms - I just want access to other humans via the path of least resistance.
With this in mind, is PieFace better? And if so, in what way?
I thought PieFed and Lemmy were one and the same.
I am not savvy on how this place is structured.
Lemmy and piefed are like different brands of phones. They do the same basic things for communicating with any other phone, but have different features for the user to interact with and different limitations.
Thank you.
The beauty of open standards!
I switched to piefed to help it grow, although for me the lemmy experience is still superior, due to the difference in clients available for Android.
On Android, the Voyager Lemmy client is better than the Blorp Piefed client.
Since the blorp Dev reads these comments (thanks for making us free software!), here's my list of features to bring blorp up to parity, from most to least important:
I thought Voyager supports piefed now?
it does. i am using voyager on piefed right now.
Piefed Game Changer number 1: Custom feeds, ex:
that way I can look at non-tech non-politics stuff (either few memes or all memes) when I want.
Piefed Game Changer number 2: Scheduled posts. That way when I got free time I can make a bunch of posts and schedule them over the next couple days or weeks.
I still keep a Lemmy account bc a couple things are still easier there. Plus to see what the posts look like to other people.
Piefed has some neat features unique to it, such as:
On the sysadmin side of things, it'd bring some nice advantages regarding network resource usage and page loading speed, and benefits from using tried and tested industry standard frameworks (I.e, Flask), instead of bespoke solutions.
I don't really understand the difference between the two. Don't they essentially do the same thing, connect to the same communities, etc? (Apart from some minor details)
Piefed is its own software. If you just go to piefed.social you'll see it is massively different and has different tools and functions.
But yes, they both federate with the same communities.
I picked Mbin
I was using Lemmy, I now use Piefed and I quite satisfied (it's not perfect, sure, neither am I ;).
Can't recall why I switched but I know there was some technical reason.
To me, they're just two ways (among a few more) of accessing the same fediverse. I use the Web UI, on a desktop computer as I don't do social media on my phone.
Lemmy is established, having existed very long before. But also they work together. So unless you have some major issue there's no real reason to up and switch.
Having two softwares actually contributes to the decentralizing of the fediverse IMO, as long as we don't devolve into tribalism and attacks between the two that deter new users....
as long as we don’t devolve into tribalism and attacks between the two that deter new users
Some people seem to find this hard. I might be one of the PieFed devs, but there are certainly reasons that people might want to use lemmy instead and I think they do some things better. No one platform is going to be the best.
I used Lemmy for a few years, but switched to PieFed recently. They offer very similar functionality. PieFed suits me slightly better. I would be happy with either. And I'm still using Voyager.
I like piefed.
I dont have a client, just the web ui in my phones browser is fine.
It honestly just feels exactly like lemmy to me, but I prefer not to support lemmy for ideological reasons.
Piefed has some critical features like, non-nsfw blur, flairs, ability to disable notifications from relies on posts and more information is exposed to admins.
I’ve been testing both for some time and the differences are pretty minor. What I really like about PieFed comes down to two things: how it groups cross-posts and their comments (on the web version), and the moderation tools. The downside is that there are a lot fewer mobile apps that support it.
Cross-posting is an amazing feature that’s still massively underused.
PieFed, which i used first, is harder to navigate. It seems to have blocked a lot of content from other instances and i'm not sure why
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