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I want to let people know why I'm strictly against using AI in everything I do without sounding like an 'AI vegan', especially in front of those who are genuinely ready to listen and follow the same.

Any sources I try to find to cite regarding my viewpoint are either mild enough to be considered AI generated themselves or filled with extremist views of the author. I want to explain the situation in an objective manner that is simple to understand and also alarming enough for them to take action.

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[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

"it looks like shit from a butt and sounds like shit from a butt, and if I wanted to look at a shit from a butt, I would do that for free"

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

at work mgmt always brings it up. "we need to use it more!".

I say nothing. I smile and nod. I ignore AI prompts. I ignore emails written by AI. I ignore requests coming in to integrate AI into the product.

nobody has asked me about any of the inaction for the last year so I don't plan on drawing any attention to it by outing myself.

edit: I suppose if anybody does I can just say the AI agent I used failed to alert me to the thing they wanted. 🤣

[-] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

One Thing to note: if you're strictly against it then you are on fact an AI vegan.

And that's okay!

Just like veganism you need to be clear though to us to help you answer that question:

  1. what IS your reason? "At all" as absolute is not objectively feasible for all situations no matter your logic (stealing --> use an open model like apertus; energy --> link it to your solar panels, unreliable --> wrong use case, etc etc)

  2. why do you want to convince others?

The issue is: you need to be honest to yourself AND to us to have a proper exchange.

"It doesn't feel right and I want to limit it's spread" is a way better answer then some stuff that sounds right but that are not grounded in your personal reality.

[-] enchantedgoldapple@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

You're right. I cannot avoid it completely. Sometimes I use it unknowingly through some other online service intermediate or work in projects among peers who do use AI. What I should've said is I avoid using it to the best of my ability.

  1. My complaint is with commercially available generative AI like ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude etc. The fact that they are being proposed as solution to every conceivable problem without addressing its drawbacks to equal standards and everyone accepting it as such is what's wrong to me.
  2. I wish to inform them of the implications of using these services what others failed to do. I do believe some people would consider reducing their uses if not stop altogether if they heard what it really is and what they contribute to by using it.

It's hard but right to admit that I'm coming off as an 'AI vegan' with what I've said earlier. I don't want to be casted out for not wanting to use something just for the sake of it, like with other mainstream social media.

[-] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

For 2. would it then be a approach for you to focus on exactly your own complaint?

"Be careful when you use gen AI, it's sold to you as solution but you'll have more work figuring out why it doesn't understand you then it would be just doing it on your own".

Perhaps I'm not yet understanding what you mean with "contribute to" or the implications though.

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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If it's a decision you make out of conviction and value it is 100% like veganism so I would say embrace it

Live your truth and people will follow. Or not and that's ok too

[-] OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago

You are an AI vegan though. Why try not to sound like one?

[-] Twongo@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

i don´t necessarily think sources are needed.

people don´t really care: if an aquaintance asks you you can just tell them it´s not your thing. if an employer asks you, you lose either way. the deranged rants are reserved for close friends :) But if you need some evidence: Look into the environmental consequences (fire up those coalmines for LLM prompts), the several studies that suggest only 60% of all answers are factual, the MIT study that shows how the brain atrophies from using AI and the phenomenon called "ai psychosis"

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

"Its not my cup of tea".

Youre over thinking this

[-] Brosplosion@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

My goto is basically since I have to strictly verify all the information/data AI gives me, it's faster for me to just produce this information myself. It's what they literally pay me for.

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

Is this a work requirement? If not, who cares.

[-] happydoors@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Don’t bring it up unless prompted or posing philosophical questions to family and friends. I once was creating a video for a client that sent me some generated images into the video that he thought were hilarious. I told him sorry, no, didn’t over explain and just said that he would need to hire somebody else if he wants those things. It’s not very hard. I always try to push for human artists and explain not only is it better for the ecosystem but for copyright reasons.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 5 months ago

You don't need artificial intelligence. We already have intelligence at home.

[-] corvus@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Most people are against AI because of what corporations are doing with it. What do you expect corporations and governments are going to do with any new scientific or technological advance? Use it for for the benefit of humanity? Are you going to stop using computers because coorporations use them for their benefit harming the environment with their huge data centers? By rejecting the use of this new technological advance you are avoiding to take advantage of free and open source AI tools, that you can run locally on your computer, for whatever you consider a good cause. Fortunately many people who care about other human beings are more intelligent and are starting to use AI for what it really is, A TOOL.

"According to HRF’s announcement, the initiative aims to help global audiences better understand the dual nature of artificial intelligence: while it can be used by dictatorships to suppress dissent and monitor populations, it can also be a powerful instrument of liberation when placed in the hands of those fighting for freedom."

HRF AI Initiative

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Maybe part of the answer is to not be so strictly against it. AI is starting to be used in a variety of tools and not all your criticisms are valid for all of them. Being able to see where it is useful and maybe you even find it desirable helps explain that you’re not against the technology per se.

For example Zoom has an ai tool that can generate meeting summaries. It’s pretty accurate with discussions although sometimes gets confused about who said what. That ai likely used much less power, might not have been trained on copyrighted content

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