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[-] human@slrpnk.net 141 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Until we start charging cops the way we would charge anyone else, it's going to be a very attractive job for people that think shooting people sounds fun.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago
[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

disagree, cops should have much more serious consequences, they should be aware of the law, and abusing their status makes whatever crime they committed much more serious than if a civilian did.

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Right? It's like oh didn't we used to have a serial killer problem? Where did they all go?? Ummm

[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 64 points 3 months ago

I hope she wins a civil lawsuit big enough to actually hurt the agency and ensure she and her hiers never have to work again

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 76 points 3 months ago

I wish we lived in a world where law enforcement trying to murder someone and lying about it were punished more harshly than the general populace.

[-] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 36 points 3 months ago

The agents won't pay for this, the public will. There is no real accountability.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Police should be required to carry insurance like doctors. Uninsurable? Unhireable.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Given the astronomical budget of this agency, which is equivalent to the military spending of medium-sized countries, this is unfortunately highly unlikely.

And, as others have already said: it is the citizens who pay for all of it.

[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago

We pay for it by the erosion of the tolerant pluralistic democracy that we inherited but are not presently keeping

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago

Oh sweet summer child. The only ones hurt by this are the victim and the tax payers.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Here is a fucking a source, some of y'all need to learn to look shit up

[-] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I disagree. The onus for providing a source is on OP for posting a screencap of a tweet. This needs to be a fediverse-wide rule, IMO.

Source the claims you post people, please.

[-] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 3 months ago

Needs text alternative.Images of text break much that text alternatives do not. Losses due to image of text lacking alternative such as link:

  • usability
    • we can't quote the text without pointless bullshit like retyping it or OCR
    • text search is unavailable
    • the system can't
      • reflow text to varied screen sizes
      • vary presentation (size, contrast)
      • vary modality (audio, braille)
  • accessibility
    • lacks semantic structure (tags for titles, heading levels, sections, paragraphs, lists, emphasis, code, links, accessibility features, etc)
    • some users can't read this due to lack of alt text
    • users can't adapt the text for dyslexia or vision impairments
    • systems can't read the text to them or send it to braille devices
  • web connectivity
    • we have to do failure-prone bullshit to find the original source
    • we can't explore wider context of the original message
  • authenticity: we don't know the image hasn't been tampered
  • searchability: the "text" isn't indexable by search engine in a meaningful way
  • fault tolerance: no text fallback if
    • image breaks
    • image host is geoblocked due to insane regulations.

Contrary to age & humble appearance, text is an advanced technology that provides all these capabilities absent from images.

OP needs to learn to link to sources & everyone here needs to learn about the iniquity of images of text as explained above.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

text is an advanced technology

*Formats entire reply in the form of an aneurysm

[-] shane@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

Does your Lemmy client not support bullet lists?

[-] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I don't think that image needs a text alternative. It's just covering part of what's said in text below it, which is fine.

The link text being "Here" should have descriptive content though.

[-] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Martinez her lawyer defending her against the public government accusations: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/16/us/video/dhs-martinez-car-jimenez-dnt-digvid

Local Chicago breaking news about how the dhs narrative holds no water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=CtXQy-NhSPo

The bodycam evidence that completely exonerates Martinez isn't released yet to the public afaik, at least I couldn't find it. The bodycam purportedly shows that the ice driver turns the steering wheel to the left to ram into Martinez' car. Another (or the same?) ice agent is shown on bodycam with a finger on the trigger saying "do something bitch" before shooting her. Martinez her gun was still in her purse when she was shot.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago

Holy fuck do those agents need to be jailed forever, at a minimum.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 months ago

Videos and sauce pls, need this as evidence in my album to show people who way ICE and BP isn't bad

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago

Just in case you thought you could believe any of their self-reporting. They will always lie to protect themselves.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

So the "agents" will be charged with perjury for lying, right? fired from their jobs? banned from law enforcement?

[-] modus@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

They will each receive a free puppy for target practice.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Sounds like those guys are all getting a bonus. This is not sarcasm.

[-] sunbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

"Well, we didn't want to get in trouble"

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

"It saved a lot of paperwork for everyone involved"

[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Right wingers claim that the death penalty acts as a deterrent, right? So maybe they need to get the death penalty here.

[-] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

You mean the cops? Why would you want to hear from them?

[-] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago
[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Holy shit, It's not out to the public yet. Read the article it's like 3 paragraphs.

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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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