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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by SmokeyDope@piefed.social to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

Never worry about commie crap like public citations getting in the way of misinformation rhetoric again! (Because the LLM trained on fuckin twitter made it up lmao)

On the flipside for an actually cool non-cucked integration of LLMs with wikipedia check out this post on the localllama where the person shares their project of using a local private llm to search through a local kiwix server instance of wikipedia. https://piefed.social/post/1333130

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[-] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 83 points 6 months ago
[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

It would be so funny if someone hacks the site and only changes that, and nobody notices for weeks...

[-] Xylight@lemdro.id 52 points 6 months ago

Rather ironic given that wikipedia makes a massive portion of LLM training corpus

[-] dabster291@lemmy.zip 30 points 6 months ago

Not to mention most Grokipedia pages are straight copied from Wikipedia!

[-] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 20 points 6 months ago

Didn't there used to be conservapedia that was just Wikipedia but edited to match their imagined reality?

[-] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 27 points 6 months ago

... I really hoped that this wasn't a thing, but im not surprised in the least.

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Its just fucking painful, man.

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

That site is bugfuck nuts, and not just because I disagree with most conservative positions. Bug. Fuck. Nuts.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Tge thing with conservapedia is Poe's law makes it impossible to moderate. A conservative (heh) estimate is that 70% of that site is trolling.

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[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 51 points 6 months ago

What's with his obession with the name "grok" though? Sounds like the sound frog made

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 48 points 6 months ago

It's from a book I love, Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. The word is the Martian term for fully understanding something.

[-] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 37 points 6 months ago

That's really funny. He steals the name Tesla and Grok and when he tries to come up with his own names, we get "X" and "X Æ A-Xii"

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

All the tech fascists steal words. Palantir is from Lord of the Rings.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Which infuriates me as a LotR fan.

and also makes me side eye Chris Tolkien hard, cause he is normally very aggressive in protecting the intellectual property..

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

Palantirs were prominently used by Sauron to corrupt and manipulate weaker-willed users, so I have to admit it's a really apropos use of the name.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 6 months ago
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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I do not sense a wrongness in your post so I will not disappear you. :)

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago
[-] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 4 points 6 months ago

Your thirst is mine, my water is yours! ... Oh shit, wrong sci-fi world I think my bad

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

What an obscure reach to make.

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 months ago

It's been part of deep nerd culture for decades, but not really pop culture.

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[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 months ago

I believe it is from the book stranger in a strange land. Its meaning is like to deeeeply understand, I think.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

That's fucking hilarious for an LLM.

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You got the original explanation, but grok was taken up by computer nerds way back in the day. It's not merely understanding a thing, in the book or the slang. To grok means to completely wrap your head around the subject, not merely surface level understanding, really feel it down deep.

As to Musk's obsession? He wants to be seen as the cool kid, the smart hacker, the guy who groks what's really going on.

Honestly it's a great name for a search engine or AI. And now he's actively ruining it like everything else he touches.

BTW, Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent book. I laugh when people call Heinlein a fascist for writing Starship Troopers. "So, how about that hippie book?" Heinlein's books examine various government and economic systems, "What if it worked this way?"

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[-] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Funny you say that. In Serbia, they say the noise a pig makes is "grok". My wife burst out laughing when she found out the name of Elon's AI.

Imagine some Saudi prince launches an AI called Oink, and then sets up Oinkepedia

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

I always assumed Grok was chosen to hint as his technology background. For which "grok" is a popular term used for reading and understanding, with code in particular.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

It's a Heinlein - "stranger in a strange land" concept. It sort of spread out in nerdery from there where it meant you know and you're in the know.

To know is to understand fully sort of. He's doing the literal opposite which is a bit 1984 of him and is also likely another book he's read and didn't understand or at least had pretended to have read.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago

trying to be an edgy almost teenager.

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[-] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 28 points 6 months ago
[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Funny how the "voting irregularities" magically disappeared when he won.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

A thief doesn't loudly announce that they just stole something.

[-] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Yeah, I mean who even does that, right?" nervously side eyes Garrett from the Thief Series with his occasional cool ass one-liners

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They forgot the quotes on "fact checked" and maybe a wink emoji at the end of that sentence

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[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Prior criminal convictions matter to you, eh, Elon? You know Trump has 34 of them, right?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you have to create a wikipedia alternative to stop being fact checked, then maybe you are just fuckin wrong.

Billionaires: "No, No.. I can't be wrong. I'm Rich! I'll create a microcosm of information that warps reality to make sure I'm right!"

Conservapedia: Wait..thats what I was for.. what about me?!

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

So why didn't Conservapedia take off? If it's unbiased truth, no liberal agenda, it should have blown Wikipedia out of the water a decade ago. Funny that.

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 6 months ago

"We have compiled the largest website full of absolute bullshit and stupidity to compete against the largest compendium of real human knowledge."

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

That dipshit really doesn't have any understanding of what the word grok actually means.

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

"Elon invented the airplane."

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

So did he just clone wikipedia?

[-] lavander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 months ago

No, the articles are reliably allucinated by Grok… with a sprinkle of editing for making sure the echo chamber is air tight

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