Am I just deceived? I think I might love him?

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[–] 90 points 10 months ago* (15 children)

Valve invented or normalised a ton of crap that's plaguing modern gaming: game launchers, always online DRM, microtransactions, achivements, lootboxes...

I'm not saying you should stop using Steam. Go ahead, buy the Frame, VR is awesome and it looks like a really solid headset, but do it without kissing Gabe's ass if you can. Corpos are not your friends.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    whats wrong with game achivments?

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    [–] 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

    I'd give all the billionaires the same choice:

    (a) Give away everything except, say, 25 million.

    (b) Guillotine.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Does that include the Kelley Blue Book of my boats or are we talking purely liquid (heh) assets?

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, everything.

    Got a $20m yacht? Sell it. Oh, youcre forced to sell it for $50k because nobody will give you more? That's just the free market, clearly it's only worth $50k.

    Paid $75m to build your house? Well someone is offering you $175k and you'd better take it.

    And you own a company worth $100m? No you don't, it was already taken from you and turned into a worker-owned co-op.

    After all the sales and seizures, you've got $23.1m in cash, and just 1m more in the bank? OK, dude, we cool.

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    [–] 38 points 10 months ago (23 children)

    If he continues to be a billionaire, yes.

    Amassing that level of wealth is not an accident, it's by choice.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago* (19 children)

    I agree with this sentiment, but given a choice, I believe Gabe would make the right one and spend his wealth to lose billionaire status.

    His supposed exploitation was not by his own design, but rather by luck - the sheer benefit of riding a privately owned and benevelontly steered surfboard on top of the waves of a collapsing capitalist society.

    Basically, there's a meme about all other companies shooting themselves in the foot so Gabe always benefits, and part of that is in the way those companies fucked and manipulated their control of capital and markets. Gabe benefits just by being one of the few that can afford to participate in that system others rigged.

    So he simply rigs it the least, and wins by providing the platform with the least greedy problems. Far far less than he could given his position.

    IMHO, despite all controversies, Steams cut of profits from providing equal access to game visibility despite creator, nationality, background, etc, has legitimately opened the door for nearly anyone to be successful on their platform. For all the tools and services they provide, they ask for literally the smallest cut compared to any other publishing platform.

    Gabe could destroy that to his benefit on a whim, and instead he over designs it to make it possible for nearly anyone to try game dev if they do the work needed to develop for them.

    To hold so much capital simply for providing some form of equality to access the same in a system that overwhelming benefits others with more resources is in no way greedy imo. It's being the person with the only fire extinguisher who knows how to use it in a burning building: popular.

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    [–] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    There is no such thing as a good billionaire. There are billionaires who might be temporarily aligned with you but make no mistake, none of them will love you back..

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    [–] 25 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Valve is in a very unique spot where employees are all paid well because of the low amount of employees they have and the massive income they generate; in their employee reviews you typically don't really see low salary as a reason to leave.

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    [–] 24 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Billionaires aren't your friends. Corporations aren't your friends.

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    [–] 21 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    He has 6 yachts from kiddie gambling...

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    [–] 19 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Why? He takes a 30% cut from every game sale just because his platform has a dominant grasp on gamers.

    I don’t understand how people can hate taxes (which go on to pay for schools and roads) but not the way larger cut that digital storefronts charge.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago

    There's an argument to be made that it's too high of a cut, especially these days. A lot of this money has funded great improvements to the gaming ecosystem and many open source projects. The major competing storefronts/launchers do not come even slightly close to the feature set that Steam provides, but they have tried attracting users through exclusivity deals. It's very telling that some successful competitors (like itch or gog) actually offer some unique benefits and aren't attached to some incredibly controversial corporations...

    Valve isn't free from criticism and their role as a monopolist should definitely be scrutinized, especially as companies often radically change for the worse in behaviour and culture, but a lot of this critical attention was instigated by Epic CEO Tim Sweeney who can frankly gargle my nuts.

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    [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    Idealizing billionaires is cringe. Eat them all. Just because he's not a complete asshole like all the other parasites doesn't make him a good person. He's still a parasite.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Look, he can be a rich guy and a leader. 1 billion is a decent line in the sand of "sorry, you own too much". He's certainly not as nakedly evil as most the rest of his ilk.

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    [–] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Being a billionaire is immoral in all cases

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    [–] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    In my opinion if anyone has billions of dollars and hasn't given a majority of it away to charity or those in need, that person is on some level at least somewhat an evil person.

    Sure, much of it would be tied up in stocks and stuff that legally can't be sold for specific purposes or timeframes, but if you have net worth in the billions and any stocks that could be sold for cash and then donated it should be. Or if you have an annual income that's much more than you need to live an extremely comfortable life and then you just spend and invest the excess instead of donate.

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    [–] 14 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    A billionaire who gives away 99% of their wealth to the poorest, first and exclusively, isn't a billionaire, and still has enough money (maybe more!) for the rest of time.

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    [+] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)
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    [–] 13 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    He's just another fat dragon who got rich exploiting people through ownership of capital.
    Then he got children hooked on gambling because one billion wasn't enough.

    He deserves to be locked up like the rest of them.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Offer him the option to transition Valve to a workers cooperative. Boom, he would no longer be a billionaire.

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    [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    This is really simple. If you have more than a 1000 million dollars. Every day you decide to keep it instead of saving lives and helping people. It will never be moral

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Take all of his assets, let him live. Then take all of his assets again 5 years later

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    [–] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    "Billionaire" is a convenient modern buzzword. It used to be "millionaire". The classic joke from Austin Powers where Dr. Evil demands money is a good example. It's just inflation.

    Plus, a lot of "billionaires" are only considers such because they own shares in their corporations. It's a "theoretically if they could find a way to sell all of those shares at the current price without tanking the market value of those shares in the process, they could get $X billion from that".

    If there were a theoretical global revolution, on of the the first steps of eating the rich is to seize and nationalize those businesses. Later, land reform will seize the extra mansions they own. They will still be left with adequate personal property to live quite comfortably. Finally, the justice system will need to evaluate what labor laws (or other laws) they may have been violating for years and using their wealth to get away with.

    Start with the biggest fish and watch as the rest start to downsize voluntarily and cut deals to avoid jail.

    I don't expect to see any of this in my lifetime. Not in any major country, and certainly not globally.

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    [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    We can save him for desert.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Only if he gives up his power and privilege permanently

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    [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    He's low on the list for sure

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    We don't have to eat them all, but we do have to take their money.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    He can buy his freedom by using his wealth to finally release hl3

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    If it were to be a revolution he would be given the chance. Just be a director of valve for a normal director salary. If he take it then he would be just another worker.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not eating Elon Musk. That's like dumpster diving behind a cracker barrel.

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    [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I personally don't like the idea of murder, I'd if we-the-people get into power, just pass laws that taxes them, then enforce the law as such. If they resist, jailtime for tax evasion.

    For those that are exceedingly cruel with their time as a billionaire, they get tried, judged by a jury of average people, 2/3 is a conviction (as opposed to the unanimity required now), life imprisonment.

    Billionaires and their heirs are deprived of political rights.

    Easy peaceful transition. Zero bloodshed

    I don't like bloodshed, because once that starts, once we "okay" mob killings, people are gonna attack anyone they don't like, including small bussiness owners they had a grudge against in the past.

    I have empathy, I don't wanna see the streets filled with blood.

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    [–] 8 points 10 months ago*

    Valve makes tonnes of money from loot boxes or whatever they’re called. Basically a form of gambling.

    It also just so happens that a great way of making a shit load of money is making it super easy for people to buy from you. Valves big competitive advantage is just… not fucking that up. A surprising number of companies fuck that up.

    And as someone else said, Gabe doesn’t have to be a billionaire. He could use his phenomenal wealth to build hospitals and help the poor, rather than building his own little private navy.

    Valve is doing a lot that will make people like them, but they’re still a huge corporation, and Gabe is still a billionaire.

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