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[-] misk@piefed.social 73 points 5 months ago

Does that make it legal? Cool.

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 19 points 5 months ago

As per other crimes, only if you are rich.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

They're not saying they did it for Meta's own personal use. They're arguing a bunch of private individuals did for their own personal use and they just happened to be using Meta's network, which, given that this is about 157 downloads, it honestly makes sense.

[-] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 10 points 5 months ago

No, but they can say that it was all Jim's fault and then fire Jim.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 39 points 5 months ago

“It was for our team-building circle jerk”

[-] Balldowern@lemmy.zip 36 points 5 months ago

Pirating for personal satisfaction is legal ?

Well blimey !

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago
[-] rotkehle@feddit.org 19 points 5 months ago

Pirating is legal now for personal use? perfect.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

Sad to say the title is clickbait. The only evidence the plaintiffs have that meta pirated their work for AI training is that a bunch of it was pirated from IPs belonging to Meta. Meta is arguing that this is insufficient evidence as it's more likely that a bunch of individuals with access to Meta IPs downloaded the videos for their own personal use. Given the very small amount of downloads and how spread out they were, I have to reluctantly side with them.

How would they even get a Meta IP?

Like most offices, they have an open network that anyone can use so they're arguing passers-by, delivery persons, visitors and such. I'm more inclined to believe it was employees but still.

[-] UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

What if my network is open to everyone and someone pirates something using my IP? I would assume I'd be held accountable because I'm responsible for my network?

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

According to the case cited by Meta, no you wouldn't.

[-] sobchak@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago

Probably shouldn't be, but probably wouldn't stop your ISP from taking action. I remember this attempt at a "movement" a decade or so ago; never caught on: openwireless.org.

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

downloading things has never been illegal in the us. that does not infringe on copyright ever. Uploading and sharing is copyright infringement, which is why torrenting is illegal (uploading while downloading)

[-] fin@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

For Meta employees to jack off? That's a nice benefit system!

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

Me, an intellectual: same.

[-] Bonus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'll put this over here, with the rest of the porn.

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