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[–] 247 points 10 months ago (16 children)

The census is a tallying of the people that live in the country. Legal or not, immigrants do live here and should be counted. This argument is dumb on so many levels.

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  • [–] 90 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Jim Banks is dumb on so many levels.

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  • [–] 54 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Isn't that a prerequisite for being a republican at this point?

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    There are a small portion of smart Republicans who are just evil and get the stupid ones to go along with them. See Project 2025 for an example.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeahhhhhh idk man. I just don't think it's smart to support the group of people spurring on the destruction of the very environment that they require to survive. Both in a global warming sense as well as a general societal sense. Absurd unethical greed has worked a couple of times in history, but it backfires really frequently.

    I think the smarter tactic would be to simply keep the machine running the same way it has been, while giving fractions of your wealth to the poor as a pittance. That way you can still live an absurdly privileged life and not have to worry about being shot in the street in NYC.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Electoral college is why people care

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Do they not live in those states?

    Which includes quite a few red states btw. It's hardly a partisan advantage... But if Texas and Florida wants to lose some seats...

    https://brilliantmaps.com/number-of-unauthorized-illegal-immigrants-by-us-state/

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not saying right or wrong, but it could impact who gets elected. Illegal immigrants don't need to vote directly to impact elections due to the electoral college.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Too fucking bad for the whiners because the Constitution straight up doesn't care. Probably because they'd have thought we were being weird fuckheads on border control.

    All voting rights addressed by the Constitution are amendments prohibiting various forms of discrimination. You don't even technically have to be a citizen to vote per Constitutional law, that's just a restriction agreed upon by all state laws.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    Fundamentally, I'm not sure why being a citizen, or even legal status, should matter when it comes to voting. When you consider that a US citizen can move to a new state/local jurisdiction and immediately vote in those elections with just proof of residency in that jurisdiction, then it seems like the proof of residency is what's really important in determining whether you can vote in a given election.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Yeah, I feel like you could easily I clude numbers for citizen and non-citizen. I don't think non-citizen should affect the number of electorates. I do think it's an important consideration for that state's elected officials, because the people do exist.

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  • [–] 101 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Also, the census doesn't only count citizens.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    It does only count people who live in the country (legally or not) or would it also include visitors who just happen to be here when they're doing the census?

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  • [–] 71 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Ever notice how everything they accuse the Democrats of, they're either doing themselves already or about to start doing?

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    It's not a big deal, because the other side is doing it! It's just how things work!

    They are legitimizing their actions ahead of time to minimize the impact when the public hears about it. I hate how performative and manipulative it is.

    This administration has every single red flag of an abusive partner. Their entire play is gaslighting, beating us and telling us it's our fault. "We don't want to deploy paramilitary forces, but you've left me no choice with how you've been behaving, letting illegals gasp eat and be happy."

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  • [–] 71 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Why don't these idiots ever suffer any consequences for being so stupid and/or deceptive? Probably because most people are also kind of stupid and dishonest.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Largely because they're being lied to by a media that doesn't cover it, or says the other guy is eating babies.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Herd mentality is STRONG when the radio, tv, and all your neighbors are repeating the same talking points. I have family in rural maga country and visiting feels like walking into a radiated zone, it’s in the air everywhere

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    My elderly parents historically have been middle of the road democrats. Hated Reagan, hated bush.

    Today my dad said "the radical left takes things too far". My mother said, "I don't feel safe in new york city! they're targeting old white people!"

    I don't know what sludge they're consuming but it's not factual.

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  • [–] 54 points 10 months ago

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/nov/08/viral-image/no-these-photos-dont-show-donald-trump-and-barack-/

    Someone wanted people to believe that Obama was watching a basketball game in the Oval Office on 9/11/2001.

    Truth means nothing to them.

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  • [–] 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    When you join an university because your father is rich, but you have no idea what any of the subjects are.

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago

    Also Census is suppose to count EVERY one in the states since when put in law some people weren't citizens. Also Trump tried to do average citizens question on the Census and it got struck down at the Supreme Court

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    You would think if the immigration hot bed of California were boosting the numbers, we wouldn’t have lost two seats in the 2020 sentences.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    They're winning and taking us all down with them, but it's never enough for these assholes (assuming you take what he says at face value and that it's not just a distraction and/or deflection).

    The 2020 census already favored red states. Texas, Florida, Montana(!) and North Carolina gained a combined 5 seats, while West Virginia lost 1. On the other side, Colorado and Oregon gained 1 seat each, while New York, California, and Illinois lost 1 seat each. So red states are +4 net, blue states are -1 net. The others are accounted for in the swing states: Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania lost 1 each for a combined -3 net.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago
    [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    One of their principle weapons is a playground tactic: grab your fist then hit you with it and say, "stop punching yourself" You'd never respond, "I am not actually punching myself, you have grabbed my fist and hit me with it" you'd just run, or hit them back. We need to do the same thing here. Calling out their hypocrisy is useless. We need to either ignore it or fight back.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Your title made me think of this picture.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I hear Americans bag out newsom he’s the only force standing against these idiots.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    More importantly the republicans gained seats

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Ahem. That would be an "Ultra Maroon!" https://youtu.be/HuxJqIs2a-Y

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    oh look it's that fucking guy that I hate

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