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[–] 91 points 10 months ago (29 children)

More research isn't a bad thing, but this really isn't news. If you're a nerd who's into lifting you'd already know that soy protein is a top tier source of all the important amino acids for muscle gain. And it's cheaper than whey.

It's also not very popular because the manosphere tells men that consuming it will feminize them. Yes, really. They took the "soy boy" thing very literally and ran with it off the deep end.

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  • [–] 57 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I remember about a decade ago talking about tofu recipes with a colleague who lifted and ate a protein heavy diet.

    An older colleague heard us and warned us that eating tofu would cause you to have a surplus of estrogen and make you more feminine.

    He was telling this to a guy built like a brick shithouse who had eaten tons of soy protein for the better part of a decade.

    It's that same old thing, something different comes along and some people just have to parrot anything that goes against that thing, even if it's complete and utter horseshit

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    As a human survival trait we need to find a way to shut down misinformation. Knowledge is our path to survival as an animal. Like ants have teamwork and building, wildebeest have speed, plants photosynthesise, humans learn.

    By creating and spreading misinformation you're chipping away at pretty much the only thing that keeps us in existence.

    Bit of a broad-strokes extreme takeaway from your comment there, but it got to me.

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    [–] 82 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Just to be clear, this is about supplements. It’s doesn’t say anything about differences in dietary protein.

    The actual title:

    Similar effects between animal-based and plant-based protein blend as complementary dietary protein on muscle adaptations to resistance training: findings from a randomized clinical trial

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    this is about supplements

    And supplements are largely unnecessary, so this study says absolutely bupkis.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Right, for the average person, protein supplements are unnecessary as long as they are healthy and eat well.

    Athletes (and people with body dysmorphia 😬) might struggle to get enough protein in their diet. But, far too many people think they’re in a position that would warrant supplements when just a little attention to diet is sufficient.

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    [–] 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Now let's have a control group with no supplements

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    [–] 37 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    There was no control group doing the workouts without protein supplements?

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    [–] 28 points 10 months ago (36 children)

    Also FYI: if you are getting enough calories, you are almost certainly also getting enough protein. The RDA for protein is quite low, 0.8g per kg bodyweight, or about 10% of your caloric intake. You can meet this by eating just grains. However, as mentioned in the linked source, the RDA is intended to prevent nutrient deficiencies, not provide an optimal level of intake.

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    [–] 25 points 10 months ago (10 children)
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    Oh yeah, I forgot about this. It's going to be tough to do anything about this with the current administration in office.

    Also there's arsenic is lots of brown rice. I think the stuff from California or India is pretty safe.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Plants in general can contain more lead from soil whereas animals will filter it out before you consume their flesh, but the amounts they found were still well below what is recommended for other plant products such as fruit juice. After looking into it when I saw that study it kinda sucks how much lead is still in a lot of things. I'd be curious to see a bigger study comparing the lead found in people that use the plant-based powder or are vegetarian versus meat-eaters.

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    [–] 20 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    It doesn't look like they had a control group of people doing the strength training without any protein supplement. I would assume that group would also perform the same.

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    [–] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Study does not say anything about the diet of the subjects. This would make more sense if it was 22 vegan men with plant-protein supplement and 22 carnivore diet men with animal-protein supplement and a control of typical diet with no supplement.

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    [–] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Amino acids are amino acids. Some are harder to get from plants than others.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I am slightly surprised that both groups lost a similar amount of fat.

    Oh, right, supplements. So similar amount of fat as well. Well, kind of an obvious result and doesn't really say a whole lot about the differences between plant- and protein-based diets.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Might want to look into the levels of lead in their blood.

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    [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    which supplements has the highest lead though

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    [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    OK that does not mean that much though because the sample group is way too small to draw some real hard science out of it.

    Saying that as a plant protein lover.

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    [–] 7 points 10 months ago (23 children)

    I would imagine the plant based group had more heavy metals, if given most brands

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