▲ 674 ▼ Researchers took 44 men and gave either plant-protein or animal-protein supplements for 12 weeks while strength training. There was no statistical difference in muscle strength or mass between groups (www.tandfonline.com) submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml to c/science@lemmy.world 250 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] miked@piefed.social 25 points 10 months ago (5 children) I bet the lead count in their system changed. https://www.consumerreports.org/lead/protein-powders-and-shakes-contain-high-levels-of-lead-a4206364640/ permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago (2 children) Oh yeah, I forgot about this. It's going to be tough to do anything about this with the current administration in office. Also there's arsenic is lots of brown rice. I think the stuff from California or India is pretty safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] The_v@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children) Lead arsenate was a very common pesticides for decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_hydrogen_arsenate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago you know...we can look back and make fun of the romans for using lead water pipes even though they knew lead caused all sorts of health problems. then...to this day not only do we still have lead water pipes, we decided to spray it on all of our food. it's a wonder we survived as a species at all tbh permalink fedilink source parent [–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Wow! That's awful. Funny how DDT was seen as an "improvement." permalink fedilink source parent [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) There’s no reason to panic if you’ve been using any of the products we tested, or if you take protein supplements generally. Many of these powders are fine to have occasionally... I found this quote hilarious, I don't know anyone who takes protein powder occasionally. They are either taking it mosts days out of the week or not at all in my experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago I am one of that group. I only take it if I went to the gym and have a surplus in my daily calories. Doesn't happen more frequently than once per week. Overdoing protein supplements can mess up your body, too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago Plants in general can contain more lead from soil whereas animals will filter it out before you consume their flesh, but the amounts they found were still well below what is recommended for other plant products such as fruit juice. After looking into it when I saw that study it kinda sucks how much lead is still in a lot of things. I'd be curious to see a bigger study comparing the lead found in people that use the plant-based powder or are vegetarian versus meat-eaters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Wait till you learn what happens when you eat animals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works -3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Fairly certain it's not lead poisoning permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) It's shorter life, cardiac disease, and cancer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* Don't forget diabetes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago You're exposed to far more lead and other heavy metals living near a road than with this. So no, not a measurable amount. permalink fedilink source parent [–] El_Capitan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Reposting my comment from another thread about this so people stop spreading this bullshit around: I have a Garden of Life powder so I did a little digging and the powder I have and the Garden of Life powder tested in this report are both NSF certified. I trust NSF way more than I trust CR when it comes to contaminant levels, NSF is trusted by multiple countries for their public health standards. Also the "level of concern" used by CR is not the max level of safe consumption, it's the minimum level to trigger a Prop 65 warning. Some agencies use 8.8 ug, the NSF used 10 ug, which are about ~15-20 times the 0.5 ug used by CR. This is also from one round of testing, NSF does yearly audits and re-tests products regularly to keep their NSF certification. https://www.nsf.org/nutrition-wellness/product-and-ingredient-certification That being said, it is healthier to get your protein from whole foods than from powders and most people wildly overestimate how much protein they actually need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago most people wildly overestimate how much protein they actually need. Amen to that. It's hilarious to watch the protein craze in action. I thought it might gradually die down decades ago, due to being able to find reliable information very easily. Instead it's gotten remarkably worse over time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago (2 children) Oh yeah, I forgot about this. It's going to be tough to do anything about this with the current administration in office. Also there's arsenic is lots of brown rice. I think the stuff from California or India is pretty safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] The_v@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children) Lead arsenate was a very common pesticides for decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_hydrogen_arsenate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago you know...we can look back and make fun of the romans for using lead water pipes even though they knew lead caused all sorts of health problems. then...to this day not only do we still have lead water pipes, we decided to spray it on all of our food. it's a wonder we survived as a species at all tbh permalink fedilink source parent [–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Wow! That's awful. Funny how DDT was seen as an "improvement." permalink fedilink source parent [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) There’s no reason to panic if you’ve been using any of the products we tested, or if you take protein supplements generally. Many of these powders are fine to have occasionally... I found this quote hilarious, I don't know anyone who takes protein powder occasionally. They are either taking it mosts days out of the week or not at all in my experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago I am one of that group. I only take it if I went to the gym and have a surplus in my daily calories. Doesn't happen more frequently than once per week. Overdoing protein supplements can mess up your body, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_v@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children) Lead arsenate was a very common pesticides for decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_hydrogen_arsenate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago you know...we can look back and make fun of the romans for using lead water pipes even though they knew lead caused all sorts of health problems. then...to this day not only do we still have lead water pipes, we decided to spray it on all of our food. it's a wonder we survived as a species at all tbh permalink fedilink source parent [–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Wow! That's awful. Funny how DDT was seen as an "improvement." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago you know...we can look back and make fun of the romans for using lead water pipes even though they knew lead caused all sorts of health problems. then...to this day not only do we still have lead water pipes, we decided to spray it on all of our food. it's a wonder we survived as a species at all tbh permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Wow! That's awful. Funny how DDT was seen as an "improvement." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) There’s no reason to panic if you’ve been using any of the products we tested, or if you take protein supplements generally. Many of these powders are fine to have occasionally... I found this quote hilarious, I don't know anyone who takes protein powder occasionally. They are either taking it mosts days out of the week or not at all in my experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago I am one of that group. I only take it if I went to the gym and have a surplus in my daily calories. Doesn't happen more frequently than once per week. Overdoing protein supplements can mess up your body, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago I am one of that group. I only take it if I went to the gym and have a surplus in my daily calories. Doesn't happen more frequently than once per week. Overdoing protein supplements can mess up your body, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago Plants in general can contain more lead from soil whereas animals will filter it out before you consume their flesh, but the amounts they found were still well below what is recommended for other plant products such as fruit juice. After looking into it when I saw that study it kinda sucks how much lead is still in a lot of things. I'd be curious to see a bigger study comparing the lead found in people that use the plant-based powder or are vegetarian versus meat-eaters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Wait till you learn what happens when you eat animals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works -3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Fairly certain it's not lead poisoning permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) It's shorter life, cardiac disease, and cancer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* Don't forget diabetes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works -3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Fairly certain it's not lead poisoning permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) It's shorter life, cardiac disease, and cancer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* Don't forget diabetes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) It's shorter life, cardiac disease, and cancer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* Don't forget diabetes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* Don't forget diabetes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago You're exposed to far more lead and other heavy metals living near a road than with this. So no, not a measurable amount. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] El_Capitan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Reposting my comment from another thread about this so people stop spreading this bullshit around: I have a Garden of Life powder so I did a little digging and the powder I have and the Garden of Life powder tested in this report are both NSF certified. I trust NSF way more than I trust CR when it comes to contaminant levels, NSF is trusted by multiple countries for their public health standards. Also the "level of concern" used by CR is not the max level of safe consumption, it's the minimum level to trigger a Prop 65 warning. Some agencies use 8.8 ug, the NSF used 10 ug, which are about ~15-20 times the 0.5 ug used by CR. This is also from one round of testing, NSF does yearly audits and re-tests products regularly to keep their NSF certification. https://www.nsf.org/nutrition-wellness/product-and-ingredient-certification That being said, it is healthier to get your protein from whole foods than from powders and most people wildly overestimate how much protein they actually need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago most people wildly overestimate how much protein they actually need. Amen to that. It's hilarious to watch the protein craze in action. I thought it might gradually die down decades ago, due to being able to find reliable information very easily. Instead it's gotten remarkably worse over time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago most people wildly overestimate how much protein they actually need. Amen to that. It's hilarious to watch the protein craze in action. I thought it might gradually die down decades ago, due to being able to find reliable information very easily. Instead it's gotten remarkably worse over time. permalink fedilink source parent