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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah... That's because lemmy.ml IS lemmygrad.ml. There's a heavy theory that they slid in and took over the domain.

I posted a meme making fun of Disney having multiple "First" gay characters. The title made a joke about how it's the first character in China everytime as the character is deleted.

Banned for two weeks.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I posted a meme about how modern US cars/trucks are too big and send all your data to China.
Banned for a week, citing rule 1 - No bigotry

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yea, I was banned for rule 2 for saying hexbear and lemmygrad ban you for disagreeing in reply to someone saying lemmy.world wants an ecochamber.

Also a comment got removed where I said that both hamas and Israel are bad for killing civilians. Apparently that violated rule 1 of no bigotry.

Some sussy stuff is going on in their mod team for sure.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

They have a exceptionally weak worldview and can't handle open discussions, this isn't a surprise considering their entire instance is banned in China. They're emulating their favorite shithole.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That shit is what kills me. They dogpile on and repeat the same bullshit arguments when they venture outside. Quickly ban any level of discourse or debate about their ideas. Then call everyone else and eco chamber because they don't like it when your don't agree with them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just got a ban as well, they didn't like me saying I assume anyone bleating about communism online hasn't been through puberty yet.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml deleted my comments that were correcting disinformation but left the intentional lie. No explanation or notice given. Happy to explain more if anyone is actually interested.

When I called them out the called me racist for saying "CCP" and deleted my comments. They also deleted other people's comments in the thread.

Lemmy.ml is hot fucking garbage.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep. Even if I wasn't banned I would have stopped posting. I unsubscribed and deleted all previous posts I had made to anything on lemmy.ml and shifted over to a couple other instances. I've been talking with another guy who also posts a bunch and he said he did the same thing and pulled back from lemmy.ml due to bad experiences, outright stopped posting after I told him I got banned (I appreciate you dude <3).

The more obvious their behavior becomes the more people are gonna pull back from the instance. I left simply because it's the same overmoderation I came to expect from reddit. I am not about that life and do not want to engage with it. I totally understand moderation and if I get stuff removed I get it. However I also expect something like a warning before you get banned or at least a notice that your post was deleted. I was having stuff taken down I didn't even know about, stuff I didn't even know was a problem. All using vague rules with no justification. Nah. I will take an enormous pass on that one, thanks.

Hilariously I noticed after I got banned that a week prior I had been messaged by an admin. He had said that one of my posts was a problem and "if I couldn't see why then he could take the time to explain to me". I either didn't see it when he sent it to me or I felt that it was such a petty response that I marked it read to respond when I was in a better mood and then just forgot about it. Not sure. Either way the fact that it was an admin really sold to me that there's little point in posting to the server. Also makes me really uncomfortable to think about the message system considering it's unsecure and could be accessed by the admins. Just a thought.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you made the same joke they make about libertarians and got banned? That's kind of amusing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

They're a bit sensitive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

You're wrong. But we definitely agreed about the childishness of "leninists". They're no ones ally. Actual communists are actually pretty agreeable/chill most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly can we stop using their instance for memes? Why are we coalescing in a place where you can't criticize the place itself?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oh I backed out completely and shifted to lemmy.world instead, Highly encourage others to do the same.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Not to be "that guy" but lemmygrad is not about national socialism. They are but jobs that will do Olympic level mental gymnastics routines to defend anything and everything Russia or China does, but that doesn't make then Nazis, "just" on the same moral level as Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're tankies. Pure and simple. Sick of people calling them socialists, they aren't even communists. They're delusional anti-western China/Russia good, tankies.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your service.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They're don't believe in socialism, they believe in authoritarianism. Therefore, they will defend any ancillary ethos.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The mods on lemmy.ml are a bunch of sensitive bitches. I once made a meme criticizing the lack of concrete rules... It got deleted

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can still see the ml one but if it’s here…

I don’t understand, is this supposed to say that grad is nazis? They’re very explicit about not allowing nazis and adjacent stuff.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be honest we don't have a real name for them. They say they support the tenets of national socialism, deride capitalism, engage in liberalism, and hate the working class.

Call them what you will. Nazi, neo-nazi, neo-neo-nazi, neo-bolshevik, I don't know. In any case it's all different flavours of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Tankies" that's the word for Nazis with a Russian coat of paint.

Edit: Lmao the downvotes. I just gave an objective description of the term OP is looking for. I'm a hardcore socialist myself and if you feel like the term "Tankie" is insulting you, then MAYBE you have an issue.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Tankie originally meant people who supported the Soviet Union's military action in Hungary and Czechoslovakia in the 50s and 60s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hesitate to call them tankies because they don't follow the same ideals. These people deride 'the libs' but engage in liberalism, calling themselves lgbtq friendly, then they call themselves communist but engage in materialism, they call themselves socialist but agree with authoritarianism.

I don't know what to call them besides fascist, but fascist is so non-specific when dealing with these groups that it doesn't help for identification. We actually need a new name for this group of fascists.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tankies don't have ideals, they're just red fascists. It's all an aesthetic.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Fascists gonna fasc.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're CCP or maybe Kremlin operatives organizing shills, LLMs, and useful idiots to spread propaganda.

That's why it's hard to say what they are. They aren't actually socialists, they're happy to support both extremes in order to increase division in their group opponents.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve never seen a grad say they support the tenets of national socialism or that they hate the working class. Can you show me?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (12 children)

No, they've been defederated.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Sure they disallow nazis, but they do exactly what nazis tend to do; alienate, dehumanize and propagandize.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (19 children)

~~national socialism~~ authoritarian communism

FIFY

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I filter that whole server. It's a ridiculous amount of propaganda.

Users need the power to block servers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Users also need the ability to block replies on specific comments/posts. Say anything that goes against their group think and you'll get a ton of replies

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

average .ml behavior lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have the time. I mean, it's gotta be a pretty short conversation because there are no benefits.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Response from Lemmy.world “Do you have a second to remove my boot from your ass?"

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