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[–] 244 points 11 months ago (45 children)

Have we ever lived in a more stallmanwasright.jpg time?

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    [+] 220 points 11 months ago (24 children)
  • [–] 43 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    .. Brazil is one of the first countries this'll go into effect and I also remember something about how that first batch of countries was chosen because their governmemts support this change.

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    [–] 149 points 11 months ago (5 children)
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    [+] 135 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 128 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Isn't this illegal in Europe? Was that the whole point of forcing apple to allow alternative app stores?

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  • [–] 42 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Technically, third party app stores are allowed. Developers "only" register with google to receive a developer certificate. Isn't apple doing the same thing in response to the EU regulations and that has been allowed?

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    [–] 102 points 11 months ago (31 children)

    There's never been a more urgent time to switch to Linux on pretty much every device.

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    [–] 93 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    For those in Europe, write your representatives.

    Fro me f-droid's post: https://f-droid.org/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html

    What do we propose?

    Regulatory and competition authorities should look carefully at Google’s proposed activities, and ensure that policies designed to improve security are not abused to consolidate monopoly control. We urge regulators to safeguard the ability of alternative app stores and open-source projects to operate freely, and to protect developers who cannot or will not comply with exclusionary registration schemes and demands for personal information.

    If you are a developer or user who values digital freedom, you can help. Write to your Member of ParliamentCongressperson or other representative, sign petitions in defense of sideloading, and contact the European Commission’s Digital Markets Act (DMA) team to express why preserving open distribution matters. By making your voice heard, you help defend not only F-Droid, but the principle that software should remain a commons, accessible and free from unnecessary corporate gatekeeping.

    https://f-droid.org/2025/09/04/twif.html [^antifeatures]: F-Droid Anti-Features overview: https://f-droid.org/docs/Anti-Features/ [^howmanyusers]: How many F-Droid users are there, exactly? We don’t know, because we don’t track users or have any registration. “No user accounts, by design”: https://f-droid.org/2022/02/28/no-user-accounts-by-design.html [^sideloading]: ‘“Sideload” is a weird euphemism that the mobile duopoly came up with; it means “installing software without our permission,” which we used to just call “installing software” (because you don’t need a manufacturer’s permission to install software on your computer).’ — Pluralistic: Darth Androidhttps://pluralistic.net/2025/09/01/fulu/ [^playprotect]: “Google Play Protect checks your apps and devices for harmful behavior”: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2812853

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    [–] 82 points 11 months ago (15 children)

    I will literally go without a smartphone if Google does this, this is insane I would have bought an iphone if I wanted a junk device I don't actually own.

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    [–] 80 points 11 months ago (21 children)
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    [–] 75 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm starting to think these for-profit companies only care about making money.

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    [–] 64 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Hopefully they go to court to get an injunction. Hopefully, they also go to the powers that be in the EU, those same powers have been so focused on the Apple App Store they failed to take into account Google can do something like this with the Play Store. It would be a shame for the F-Droid project to end but it is completely avoidable.

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    [–] 63 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Open source community keeps trusting Google and they keep using the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

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    [–] 63 points 11 months ago (4 children)
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    [–] 62 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Let's hope that the rest of the world, specifically Europe smash this ridiculous proposal apart for what it is. Europe has already sorted out USB-C etc. Its not perfect and they don't get everything right, but certainly big enough to make stuff right.

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    [–] 57 points 11 months ago (19 children)

    What pisses me off it that they say they do this for security. It changes absolutely anything.

    They really think that malware developers will say "oh no! I need to submit a picture of an id card to sign my malware! It's literally impossible to submit a jpg of a stolen id card, I'm ruined and out of a job!"

    What does it change? Waste 20 minutes of some malware developer while they register under a stolen id? They already have a system that scans for known malware and automatically remove it.

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    [–] 50 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    "Year of the Linux Phone" has a nice ring to it.

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    [–] 44 points 11 months ago

    I am perfectly ok with android apps being required to be signed by not just a certificate (they always were just it could be self signed and just needed to match to upgrade without removing data) but a list of trusted entities.

    As long as:

    • I can install my own key on my phone (I'd I am trusted)
    • major distributors like fdroid and have a key installed without friction (like web CAs)
    • Google let's me mark their key as untrusted (I probably won't but I should be able to refuse things they trust (at install time, not disabling preloaded apps like settings)

    Without this it feels too much extending the monopoly despite being forced to allow 3rd party stores.

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  • [–] 43 points 11 months ago (20 children)

    It seems to me that part of the problem is overreliance on phones as computing devices. A lot of things, like banking, are best done on an actual computer. We have become too dependent on phones.

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    [–] 36 points 11 months ago

    The justification is simple, I don't see the confusion, they want absolute power and for all alternatives to wither and die ? What is there not to understand ?

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago

    EU be like: Really? Didn't you learn from Apple?

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