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why would you use apple tho
It’s all you’ve ever had and it’s hard to switch everything over
Money, time, resources.
As in, you have too much?
Maybe you already have it, even if an older device, and it would take more to switch/get a new device that doesn't seem necessary?
my android phone cost me 50 quid, im pretty sure you could sell a newer iphone for a few hundred, get a cheap android with a SD card reader then spend the rest on weed
my play
I think you'd be more likely to see the state step in and do things like disable Internet traffic if they want to disable large scale communication as we've seen other states do in the past.
Could they? Yes, probably. So could the network providers (which would be more likely and easier). Would they? Ehhh, I feel more likely would be the government trying to mandate surveillance of communications rather than blocking them.
I don't think any company would want to be that overt about trying frankly. While the west is largely not primed for a revolution at this moment, in a hypothetical revoluton I don't think companies would make an overt position like that. It's not like companies would be dismantled overnight normally, they would want to keep existing.
Apple has once demonstrated ability to push silent updates to macos and load albums on iphones, so they can forceload and can update similar os
Source? Rapid security responses don’t count.
In the quickness of it all, I just grabbed the first post I found that demonstrates that Apple installed a U2 album on everybody's iPhone. Sorry, it's from some bougie online Shit site.
https://www.eonline.com/news/1071481/remember-when-apple-forced-a-u2-album-on-us-all
Other than that, it is extremely well known that Apple has full control over every iPhone. They can force updates, they can remove apps, they can add any software they want and do anything and target anybody they want.
Unfortunately I can't find a quick source to site that, but I'm in the tech field and it's something that people talk about fairly regularly.
For what it's worth, I had an iPhone during this time and can confirm I had the U2 album pushed to my phone without any prior notice.
It’s fine, feel free to take your time.
I remember when they gave out the U2 album but I watched the keynote that year. That still doesn’t seem like an update even if it was controversial.
I block iOS updates with a tvOS profile personally.
If you can find a source later for your latter claims, please provide it.
So apple for sure doesn't have open updates, they've been caught purposefully slowing down old phones without telling users:
Then they can remotely uninstall apps, Hmmm, maybe you can disable that:
https://www.askdavetaylor.com/how-to-ensure-apple-doesnt-remote-delete-apps-from-iphone-ipad/
But I've never seen this site before, how true what they are saying is.
Also I don't have an iPhone, so I can't conform this guys steps.
But... 100% confident that they can disable phones remotely. They advertise it as a feature for disabling stolen phones. But they advertise they only disable phones that people have reported stolen. But they can disable any phone they want for any reason theoretically.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/06/02/apples-software-tracks-iphones-stole
If find my iPhone can do it, then Apple can, it all runs through their servers of course.
Familiar with the first one. Of course they can put anything they want in an update (see iOS 15 CSAM concerns, and restricting setting AirDrop to everyone for only 10 minutes).
I’m not really sure what you and that source is implying by “remote deleting apps”. What you really should do is turn off the “offloading apps to save space” feature if you’re concerned about Apple pulling an app from the App Store, as that has happened, and back up your IPA files so you can reinstall them if you needed to.
The last one is fair, you’re right that they could just trigger Activation Lock on all iPhones just for funsies and not accept your password to reactivate
Also this is in the context of communist trying to organize using iPhones. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple had a partnership set up where they secretly were able to target in manipulate phones. As of right now in the United States and a good portion of the world, there are open source operating systems that you can run on open bootlaters and keep most, if not all, remote interference off your phone. Just my thoughts.
No, because using an Apple device would hamper a revolution far more than the devices not working.
Lmao gottem.
You need a network to communicate.
You are saying that Apple would sabbotage the Network?
I'm saying whatever the state is would. Its why behind the scene the state is always working overtime to secure its communication networks. If you develop something like tor, you're watched like a hawk. Tor isn't the network. But it provides some tools for anonymity.
I remember an interview with one of its devs who said they were constantly stopped at borders and flights and inspect. Any devices they had were taken in the back and returned.
At one point the dev was put on a no fly list. All attributed to building better anonymity tools.
Apple and any other company do not matter. Its not like these devices are ham radios
This wasn't the dev I remember since it was a male. But here's another example of it happening
https://www.fastcompany.com/4007583/fbi-has-been-stalking-this-tor-developer-and-no-one-knows-why
Personally, I think massive surveillance by the government is a much better option for them. Apple could cooperate with this (they already do in PRISM, maybe they could hand over data) but this would be much more effective than shutdowns.
Communicate and give away your secrets, comrades, and we’ll be watching, always watching… :fbi-posting:
There exist apps to create resilient communication networks over Bluetooth. But that requires that a lot of people have them prior to the network going down.
Its their proprietary operating system, so ... probably. Not likely its going to be something they do willingly or at least without governmental authority to cover their ass.
They could make things more difficult by shutting down Apple services unless you’re on a brand new totally not malware update similar to how they did a shutdown with iOS 11.
They could try to deploy malware with known vulnerabilities if people block updates.
They’d have to be really compelled though, because it would severely damage their reputation and they do like their billions rolling in
Wouldnt a revolution be enough motivation for that?
Would it?
If Russia did another communist revolution, Apple probably would face more damage in doing anything overtly than they’d gain from just silently participating in PRISM and doing nothing at all.
What if it was the West? Particularly, the USA?
There’s no way a communist revolution would work in the USA right now so you’re going to need more context in this hypothetical world where a communist revolution has a chance of succeeding.
I wish it were possible to believe otherwise, but history doesn’t seem to support that belief.
Regardless, say that a communist revolution was happening in the USA. Would Apple sabbotage the iphones?
Would depend on whether it would be in their interests to do so IMHO
You could make the case either way
Thesis: Communism is when no iphone.
Antithesis: Communists are all hypocrites because they use phones
Synthesis: Google is communist
this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
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