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[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

Many people here will defend that "Stalinism" doesn't exist because it's not fundamentally different from Marxism-Leninism, it just happened so that the USSR during Stalin times had to live through some of the worst moments in recent European history, facing a war that murdered 20+mn Soviet citizens, so the country took desperate measures at times.

In my subjective opinion, Stalin was probably a good revolutionary communist who was completely devoted to socialism. From a young age he rejected his comfortable studies as a priest and became a worker agitator, full-time revolutionary during a time where that would land you in jail (he spent years in jail at Siberia as a consequence).

He constantly risked his freedom and his physical safety for almost two decades during Tsarism with no other incentive than the betterment of the life conditions of others, for example if he just wanted money he could have kept the money that he stole when executing the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery instead of giving the money to the Bolsheviks to further revolution, and he lived a comfortable but modest life as a leader, without much in the way of luxury other than the occasional holiday visit to party-official-exclusive dachas.

During his mandate, the USSR managed to industrialize enough to first defeat Nazism (saving tens of millions of lives in Eastern Europe from extermination) and then to eliminate hunger in the eastern block (saving tens of millions more in my opinion), while being the first country to provide universal healthcare and education at no cost.

Flagrant mistakes were obviously made, such as the deportations of Crimean Tatars or Koreans within the Soviet Union, or arguably an excess of repression during the peak of the Gulag system in the eve of WW2, though this latter effort was far from centralized and indeed the central government of the USSR imposed maximum incarceration and execution rates that the smaller republics had to request permission to exceed. These failures must not be hand-waved to "Stalin was just bad", they're actual serious policy errors that proper communists take seriously and analyze in their context in order to be able to learn from them and not repeat them, instead of just saying "I'm a better person than those who gave everything during tsarism for the betterment of the peoples' living conditions".

And boy did these conditions get better. Life expectancy skyrocketed after 1945 all over the eastern block, which would otherwise have been colonized and exterminated by Nazis in a similar fashion to native Americans by the US colonization that inspired Hitler, socialism saved HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of lives from starvation, genocide, colonization and mass deportation.

All in all, I think he was a good guy who genuinely cared about the betterment of the rest of peoples' lives, though a flawed individual who had to live through some of the hardest responsibilities in the hardest times of human history. As a last note, he's not responsible for everything good nor for everything bad that happened in the USSR, that's big-man-theory version of history and that's idealist nonsense. The material and historical conditions led to the decisions made by the people and by the party, many of which directly contradicted Stalin and passed anyway.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Good effortpost. Thanks, comrade.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Simple statement, makes a good party line. Nice.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure its in line with CPC and from them the current CPRF then adopted it recently iirc(CPRF isn't regarded extremely highly here from my understanding though, at least for the last discussion of parties that I saw months ago).

[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

Yes. Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree with this one fully! Good party line!

Allowing West Germany to exist was a net negative for the country and its people. Reunification couldn't have done the damage and devastation it did, if there hadn't been any division to reunify and the GDR had been whole from the beginning. I understand that with the situation what it was, the outcome we got was the best outcome for communism that we could have gotten, but I still think anything that could have been done to prevent what happened when the wall came down, should have been done.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

sir this is an internet forum

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago

Yes. We believe that Stalin was real. Unlike some revisionists that assert he was a fictional creation of Leon Trotsky, we subscribe to the idea that he was a real historical figure who played a significant role in shaping the Soviet Union and 20th century international politics.

If you disagree you can still hang out but just don't talk about it.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

stalinism however, is not a well demarcated thing.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Real talk, Stalinism doesn't exist.

But most of the time, I'm a proud Stalinist, because it's a really good bit, and I've been called one enough times to know how to play the part up so someone asks "who ordered the large ham, and gave it a Stalin 'stache?"

It is. So. Much. Fun. to be called a Stalinist by some angry Trot with no real arguments left, and just say "Yes. I am."

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Well, I knew some leftists disagree on whether Stalinism exists, but arguing about whether Stalin himself existed is a new one. I swear, this site invents insane party splits faster than Protestant churches invent new heresies and theological splits!

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Stalin saved the world from fascism, that's enough anyone needs to know.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Generally the commies I meet think he did some good things, did some bad things, made plenty of mistakes but wasn't as bad as the US painted him. He wasn't as bad as the Nazis. He had a cult of personality around him, sure, but it's not something he himself seemed to encourage, and he wasn't the dictator the US painted him as with absolute power.

At least that's what I've read on here before.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He had a cult of personality around him, sure, but it's not something he himself seemed to encourage,

Early on in his career as the head of state, this is true. He saw the cult among the masses but basically said that enough was being asked of them that it would be a distraction to try to impose upon them good taste. He also discouraged it very aggressively in his private correspondences and in what the USSR published for educational materials.

Later in his career, this becomes less and less true, personally participating in the awarding of the Stalin Prize, and supporting the movies such as the Fall of Berlin, which are pure and unadulterated hagiographies of himself. He probably maintained his stance with respect to educational materials, but in other state affairs he basically decided to take on the messianic image that many already had of him or promoted.

Nonetheless, he did not have absolute power, and was in a constant struggle with the politburo over various matters because he viewed the Party as being heavily infected by revisionism (and was correct in this belief). All the way to his death, there were initiatives that he disagreed with but did not have the authority to simply unilaterally stop, and as far as I can tell he took the demcent "unity of action" thing seriously because he never tried to go rogue to rally the public against the rest of the politburo when he lost a vote. This was probably to the detriment of the USSR, which seems inevitable considering how brutally he prosecuted people who violated those principals (e.g. Bukharin).

Even knowing how poorly the Cultural Revolution went, I honestly wonder if Stalin should have attempted something similar, since he definitely could have and the politburo was pretty hopeless for many years before his death.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Seems like a pretty reasonable take and about what I hear from most reasonable commies. Good line.

Was he the best leader he could have been, and immune to making mistakes? Of course not. Was he better than pretty much every other leader involved in the Great Patriotic War? Hell yeah he was.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago
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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I'm not even into men, but that's a nice slice of beefcake right there.

Why is every famous communist revolutionary so damn hot?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Reactionary hate makes you ugly, it really does. Look at a picture of television preacher Kenneth Copeland. Really zoom in on his face, especially if he’s smiling. That’s the haggard, soul-worn face of a man who is evil inside.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Right, that explains why reactionaries are ugly, but not so much why every commie is hot.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Username checks out there, comrade. Do you have a favourite cute pic of him? Personally, I'm partial to the heart hands one, and to all the paintings of him with kids, exuding massive amounts of Dad Energy.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

The one where he's on a bench with Lenin, something about that picture just seems so domestic

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, I do love that one. Stalin/Lenin is definitely a ship I enjoy, with a lot of canonical evidence. They're so cute together in every single pic of both of them.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

We have a dedicated marsupial to remind the site of the summarized party line on this about once every 24 hours.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Uhhh... I think that brings up more questions than it answers.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

it is [today's date] and Stalin saved the world from fascism

maybe a little great man theory for my taste but not a big deal

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Good party line. I like.

Stalin's worst mistake was stopping in Berlin, right?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yes, that's the second part.

The third is "we may soon have to start making excuses for the lack of terror"

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

"Revolutionary terror costs a lot of resources and manpower! We just can't afford it right now!"

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah he’s based, probably 80/20 if I understand the forum

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I hope you're joking and not actually treating this website like a cult. You should form your own opinions

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

The website does have many party lines, including those explicitly in the rules.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

A party line is not a cult-like thing to have. It's literally the basic function of any party.

Not that this website is an actual party to begin with ...

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Oh, it's a party alright bocchi-party

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, this is half wanting to assess general opinions here and half a common joke made in leftist spaces, where you ask about a "party line" to get the prevailing opinions.

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