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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I still need to read Red Rising.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Yes, we will end up with Eloi and Morlocs

[-] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

What change would a person who thinks they're already perfect make?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Can never have too big of a dick. 🤷‍♂️

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

When the kid grows up "my dick is too big, I'm transitioning to get rid of it" 😂

[-] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

Nature takes its course.

Remember the rich tried to keep their genes separate from the masses by inbreeding. Look at where that got them.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago

Despite being nearly 100 years old, Brave New World (1931), written by Aldous Huxley, covers the idea of class-based genetic engineering and genetics based class definition, as one of its core themes.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 21 hours ago

As others have said, go see Gattaca. It's completely about this topic and very interesting.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

An incredibly powerful scene. I still think about it regularly when thinking about human limitations.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

Awesome movie.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

This is the theme of the Divergent series.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Huh. I guess I didn't really never thought of it that way

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Ooor they'll turn their kids into "pugs" that are ultra-cute and good at passing certain tests but otherwise useless and unhealthy.

I'd definitely prefer we didn't go down that path, but do consider the endpoint might be more The Time Traveler than Gattaca, because rich people aren't exempt from being dumb.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

If the 'rich' are anything about choosing genes as they have been about choosing plastic surgery, we know that most of them will make a complete hack of it and their offspring will suffer for it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Exactly what I mean! Every time we've gotten real, subjective choices about the design of an organism we've ended up with something that's paradoxically kinda bad by anyone's judgement.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

I do wish the ultra wealthy would just become morlocks and go underground forever.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

The wealthy became the Eloi in that story, haha. You're supposed to want to eat them.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

You're right, huge brain fart.... I still wish they would all leave us alone forever, analogy or not

[-] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Hate to tell you but the morlocks weren't the rich in that story.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago

Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress. A scifi that deals with the creation of classes based on whether you can afford to buy your children good genes. Politicians are charismatic, ruthless and good looking, because they are bred for politics. In this world people without genemods are sorta out of luck, without any of the tools or enhancements rich genemod people have.

Or, check out GATTACA, good movie.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm compelled to mention every time GATTACA is mentioned, that the title is made up of the amino acids* that comprise our DNA: A,T,C,G

*nucleic acids

[-] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Damn, u right.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

I've never studied anything about genetics or DNA, but I didn't know that until the first time I showed my then girlfriend (now wife). Once the general premise became clear, she said something like "I should have guessed, since the title is made with A,T,C,G."

[-] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

You know I never noticed that but that's a nice subtle reference.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Wish they had a blooper reel called TATTACA.

(That was all five of you biochemists out there)

[-] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Yeah it will be new class of morons that will buy out all the water and energy to feed their shiny computers so you can live in dark and starve to death.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

They don't need genetic engineering to have advantage over everyone else tbf.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

That's already happened. It happened a long time ago.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

This happens in a smaller way with access to prenatal testing and abortions. Parents with access to those things are at least able to detect and avoid the more debilitating birth defect, while parents without access are more likely to have a child with a severe birth defect. If they're already struggling materially, that can sometimes guarantee that both the parents and child will have no upward mobility.

[-] [email protected] 215 points 1 day ago

The plot of the film Gattaca explores this, the idea of what society looks like when there's a class of genetically engineered, "superior" people, vs. the naturally born, "inferior" class.

[-] [email protected] 92 points 1 day ago

Is that the movie about (sorry for the bad synopsis) Where the guy vacuums his work desk because he wants to go to space?

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Editing a gene is not like editing code. But I'll let the rich folks experience the wonders of body-horror.

Who am I to deny them this nightmare😏

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

This has been a thing for at least a few years. Luckily last I checked (pre pandemic) it hasn't taken off bc

  1. Eugenics reminds people of Nazis and is bad
  2. Genetic diversity might be the only thing that saves us in another pandemic. Kind of like how strains of bananas all go extinct at once if they're genetic clones.

So probably too dangerous to actually take off any time soon. Iirc a Chinese scientist tried it and got sent to jail, seems to be a pretty universal thing

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I wonder how that kid is doing. I would love to hear an update. It was bad and all but I am still curious.

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

As someone suffering from a terrible genetic disease that will kill me soon, any amount of preventing these diseases under any circumstances gets a thumbs up from me.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

This already happens with social factors that affect physical development like access to nutrition and a permanent place to live.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago

There is already a separate class of rich people

The thing you are afraid of is already happening

Rich people and their kids get world class health care, including helicopter flights to hospitals for life saving surgery. The rest of us die in the waiting room.

Rich people and their kids never have to work a day in their lives. We all have to work until we die.

Rich people and their kids get to enjoy luxury, fulfillment, gratification and a style of living that we cannot possibly imagine. We have to pirate movies because we can't afford to see them in theaters.

[-] [email protected] 91 points 1 day ago

Yes.

But it’s already here. Education is already doing what you’re fearing. Rich people tend to have access to better education and thus having access to better salaries, positions, etc.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

gattaca, and the cloning show with arnold in

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

If a dude in his garage could do it, it's not gonna be locked away. See: The Thought Emporium

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[-] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago

ha, dude this already exists. you can almost reliably determine success by zip code, because poor people dont deserve healthcare or education or to do anything but work their fingers to the bone to stay alive.

the whole genetic piece is just the final chapter

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