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[-] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago

bloomer Great, this will lead to a reorganization of the rural economy away from environmentally unsustainable, input-intensive production systems and more toward balanced methods of local production and consumption and a reduction in the sector's greenhouse gas output.

doomer We're all gonna starve because they're gonna burn the soybeans rather than sell them for a loss, aren't we?

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Definitely the latter, and then Blackrock and Billy G will swoop in to buy up farmland from the insolvent farmers.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Nothing hits quite like being Lord of the Ashes.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

they voted for this.

don't feel sorry for the '''Farmers'''', there is no such thing as working class farmers in the US, only temporary failed plantation owners

[-] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago

it sure is tuff owning a bunch of land and then exploiting migrants to harvest your speculative cash crops

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Now you have too much land and no more affordable labor? Great incentive to lease your land out for the camps that hold your former employees.

[-] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago

Been wondering how this would play out, farmers planted the same amount as usual even without buyers lined up assuming the guard rails would hold. Now they don't have anybody to harvest or sell to. Deffinitly gonna be some grapes of wrath ripe for the picking soon.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

Luckily leftists are ardent readers and are prepared for how this is going to go down.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That would require talking to country folk and ewwww.

-most leftists I know

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Wait I don't think I understand why Fanon is relevant

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

In Wretched of the Earth he talks about the need for revolutionaries to connect with the people outside of the cities.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Damn I forgot about that bit. Gotta re-read it soon. Thank you.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I talked to my farming buddy about this. He said it’s definitely a real thing especially for soybeans. But he’ll probably just end up storing more from his harvest this year and ride it out. I know every situation is different, but just thought I’d throw that out there.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But he’ll probably just end up storing more from his harvest this year and ride it out.

Then your buddy is better prepared than like 90% of farmers, who hsve overleveraged the hell out of their holdings and have debts they counted on selling this year's harvest to service. The (immediate) problem isn't so much that farmers have a glut of product to sell, it's that the farming sector, like almost every other productive sector in the global north is finsncialized to hell and back, getting strapped to the global financial system like a suicide vest that starves you to death instead of blowing you up.

Hell, even if you don't have large operational debt, the capacity for storage you need to ride out these kinds of things requires large capital investments: money most farmers don't have at hand, and get loans for. I'm sure it was a genius move to plug the food system to part of the economy that's been the cause the past 3 or 4 times there was a recession. No problems there.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

What does "store more and ride it out" look like. I don't know the shelf life of soybeans even in ideal conditions but I don't see China changing course and suddenly buying more next year.

Difference in a society that makes plans on a 10, 50 and 100 year time frame and a society that would let you pay them $100 to burn your house down because hey, it's $100 they didn't have before.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Monitor the markets and haul when they spike. Don’t know how long they stay good but probably a couple years maybe. You’ll lose some to rot over time but it’s better than selling low. He mostly grows corn and has pigs too so it’s not like that’s his only source of income.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Plus, burning down the house increases GDP once you rebuild it

[-] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago

It's crazy when what we said would happen happens

[-] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

Begun, the finding out has.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago

Time for Bill Gates to buy up more farmland

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Being proletarianized is the one thing that might eventually make the farmers tolerable

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

gates mostly wants to monopolize food production, not real estate

[-] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ahh I thought he was squatting on farmland until it became "unviable" (food too expensive) and then scorch earth sell them to developers to make a permanent renter class, deny generational weath via Gates-keeping homeownership, and then permanently deleting farmland driving food prices even higher while sucking every disposble penny from the working class. twisted

All the farmlands around here are becoming housing developments.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

quite the opposite. he's been focused on prime arable land, and especially what will remain arable based on climate predictions.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Better be Bill Gates Foundation than Monsanto, Americans like norms and choosing the lesser of the 2 evils afterall

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago
[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

I heard the Americans like to have the choice of the colour of the whip that will lash them

[-] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Voting to decimate their own markets (The communists, you can’t make this shit up) by waging war against China

It sounds like a weird joke

[-] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Drought is driving a shitload of my ranching neighbors out of business, people are selling properties that have been worked by their families for over a century

There's already a profound ongoing reorganization of the social order in rural america and all this will just accelerate it

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Lmao, eat shit AmeriKKKa

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Me watching all the old pastures and grasslands get turned into subdivisions and fast food chains. Guess this is just going to happen faster now.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

They all have rabid Trump cult flags, signs, and Semi trucks

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

Well they can fuck off

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

extremely obscure by this point but I can't exactly take that term seriously without immediately thinking of the name of a level, that for some reason rests in the back of my head, from an archeological artifact of a game, sprung from a primordial internet:

[-] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago

Decent explanation of why farmers are surprised the leopard is eating their faces. TL;DW kulaks assumed they’d get a chunky subsidy like always, and they did not.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I remembered in Canada there was an Agriculture Study specialist who gave a conference to a bunch of farm owners about how to adapt your farm's business in the event of climate change. The conference didn't last because these farmers told that specialist that there is no such thing as Climate change.

btw, the specialist is not even there to sell some corpo product, he was just there to present some study he did.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

i guarantee those same farmers talk freely about how strange the weather has been for the past few decades

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago
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