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[–] 56 points 3 years ago (1 child)

The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) is abusing RISC-V to get around U.S. dominance of the intellectual property needed to design chips.

Noooo technology has to be kept secret so rich people can make profit, open and voluntary collaboration is CHEATING 🀬🀬 (but capitalism is the most efficient model and socialism no innovation)

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  • [+] 43 points 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 38 points 3 years ago* (9 children)

    It doesn't have NSA backdoors in the design so it's unacceptable for domestic use and they don't want it to take off for foreign use because then they can't spy on other countries. (Same rationale behind banning Huawei, never was about Chinese backdoors, was about lack of NATO backdoors that was the issue and always will be with any Chinese products).

    Even assuming a lack of built in backdoors, the west controlling the companies responsible for these things mean they can sit in the pipe of their security disclosures and pick out zero days disclosed to the company, exploit them against enemies first before those enemies even know it. If they're Chinese companies they can't do that.

    There's zero evidence China behaves like the western bandits and hoodlums and plenty pointing to the fact China keeps business (selling you good working products) and spying (gathering intelligence) separate. They won't sell you a trojan horse, they'll just hack you, having no particular advantage because of secret knowledge or back-doors. Which is the way things should be in the type of world the west claims to be for in their alleged desire for free markets and free trade.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    It doesn’t have NSA backdoors in the design

    RISC-V is an architecture like ARM. What are you going to do, put a backdoor in the add instruction?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Exactly. An add instruction, or any instruction needs to be carried out in steps within the hardware. Sometimes there's systematic bugs in these implementations that can be exploited.

    Plus, it's an open architecture where those bugs can be exposed and fixed. Where in Intel/arm based architectures, they can be rolled out to the world and be used by those in the know.

    Eg: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/is-the-intel-management-engine-a-backdoor/

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    RISC-V being open doesn't mean all implementations using it have to be, though

    There's nothing stopping a manufacturer from putting their own Intel Management Engine equivalent in a RISC-V CPU

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  • [–] 37 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Next step is to criminalize FOSS more broadly for unfair competition against corporate software.. Amazing.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    that's kind of the logical endpoint of the argument they're making there

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's less the logical end point and more the desired end goal to which they've been actively working towards for decades rationalizing each step as a necessary compromise.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 years ago

    Uncrtical support for Brainrottism with Usonian Characteristics.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    marco rubio, the absolute legend. he never misses.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The implication that this is some sort if one way relationship where only China benefits at the expense of American corporations is hilarious.

    If they honestly think that then their exceptionalism is at terminal levels.

    Hilarious

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  • I can't wait to watch them do this and then realize that a solid 2/3rds of modern electronics have a RISC-V chip in them somewhere because they're cheap as fuck and dependable so long as you don't need cutting edge performance.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago

    This is a weird way of begging the United States to nerf itself into being a so called "third world country" on tech

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    Empires usually end up collapsing under their own weight due to sheer incompetence and arrogance.

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    They're considering making my dream illegal. Death to Amerikkka!

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