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[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

We let environmentalism become an individual issue, and that was a mistake. Can we not do this for AI? It's a society-wide problem, not something you can solve by measuring your own personal AI footprint.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago
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[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

No, I didn’t make it up. Although I rather wish I did, because it’s quite catchy, isn’t it?

No, it isn't, it's fucking stupid. The author was kind enough to link the source of that shitty idea, and the AI/vegan parallels are, per said article: ethical, environmental and wellness concerns.

Gee wiz, I sure never saw people with those 3 concerns in regards to anything other than veganism!!!

/s

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Nothing wrong with being a Luddite

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

It was always about worker's rights anyways:

Malcolm L. Thomas argued in his 1970 history The Luddites that machine-breaking was one of the very few tactics that workers could use to increase pressure on employers, undermine lower-paid competing workers, and create solidarity among workers. "These attacks on machines did not imply any necessary hostility to machinery as such; machinery was just a conveniently exposed target against which an attack could be made."[10] Historian Eric Hobsbawm has called their machine wrecking "collective bargaining by riot", which had been a tactic used in Britain since the Restoration because manufactories were scattered throughout the country, and that made it impractical to hold large-scale strikes.[13][14] An agricultural variant of Luddism occurred during the widespread Swing Riots of 1830 in southern and eastern England, centring on breaking threshing machines.[15]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

It was about making sure that as mechanization resulted in a lower need for labor, that workers compensation remained steady, and they worked less hours.

People hating luddites is just the result of centuries old propaganda from the wealthy

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So I'm not the only one who refuses ro touch it?

Around me and everywhere it's getting insane that it feels like there's literally no one who hasn't used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We don't need to invent new terms, like 'AI Vegan', when we have a perfectly good term already: Butlerian Jihadist.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

'AI vegan'....

Where I come from, saying something that stupid will get you killed.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

"refuse" lol as if there were a general requirement to use this shit

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

If anyone says the words "AI Vegan" to my face, I'm throwing shit.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Aigen or Aibstenant something for a term. Vegan is not right.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

"AI vegans"? I knew guardian was already bought by tech bros, but wtf is that phrasing lmao I dont use AI either, simply because it is wrong more often than not and I am still capable of googling myself, but being cautious equals to being vegan in tech bro eyes?

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just don’t have a use for it. I already am generative AI.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Come on Guardian... why frame it like that? Folks using AI should be called out as strange.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

The better term would be "LLM gobbling fuckheads" for those who use that stuff and believe it has anything to do with "AI"

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I don’t use ai either. But because it’s fuckin stupid. It’s not even ai. It’s a glorified sorting algorithm.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Reading this thread, I wonder if the term is intended to divide a largely environmentalist opposition.

Makes "nocoiner" seem tame by comparison.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

There's a huge push right now to salvage the AI hype bubble as people realize the tech can't live up to the promises. They are also trying to prevent regulation.

This includes the pushes to humanize the tool, like saying it deserves rights or that there may be some kind of racism against the tool.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

There it is. The stupidest headline I've read all week.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

The irony of environmental activists using the word "veganism" while not being vegan 😒 (being vegan is one of the most significant reduction to greenhouse emissions that is within your personal choice)

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I'd rather be called a Luddite than ai vegan

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

What a terrible choice of words. They’re immediately assigning political placement and party to the idea of avoiding AI use instead of appealing to all of humanity on this topic.

Plus, it’s a silly metaphor.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

No an Image generation is not ten times the impact pf a Google search, a ChatGPT query is. Image generation is probably a lot more.

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