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About the Online Safety Act in the UK and the Digital Services Act in Europe

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[-] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago

I've already said goodbye to "the internet" 3 times. Social media destroyed web 2.0, which destroyed the original web, which destroyed the original Usenet and telnet internet.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

coming from a conservative media outlet instantly tanks any claim's credibility imo

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I have read maybe half, and the cringe in this piece is intense.

Imagine plauding Musk’s commitment to maintaining free speech on X.

I mean, there are problem with the DSA and there are plenty with Online Safety Act, but maybe try to SIMP for fascist Big Tech a little more discreetly?

[-] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago

The UK populace doesn't get nearly enough shit for all of the bullshit they have caused. They are the fucking Alabama of Europe.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

The ruling British class, sure. The average British citizen is impacted by this, rather than enacting the change though.

It's kind of like how a select few people in the states decide healthcare shouldn't be affordable, and everyone else just has to accept it; despite living in one of the richest countries in the history of the human race.

The reality is both nations have the same group of people pulling the strings behind the scenes; anyone who believes they have any say in either country is either not paying attention, or an idiot.

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

"What we are witnessing right now is the death of the free internet and the birth of a new digital dictatorship. No longer can we be trusted to decide for ourselves what content is appropriate or correct. Everything must instead be filtered through the state’s definition of ‘safety,’ telling us what is safe to say, see, or believe. Under the guise of protecting children and fighting ‘hate,’ governments are creating the most comprehensive censorship apparatus the West has ever seen."

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Nothing to do with the states definition of safety, but just an excuse to do more surveillance and collect more data.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

Same shit coming to Australia

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

We're so fucked and people don't even realize that.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

The enshittification of life as we know it.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Everytime I hear about some draconian internet law it's always coming out of the UK.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I have a long-running theory that we're the US's testing ground for authoritarian nonsense. If they roll it out here and it doesn't get too much resistance, it'll show up in the US in the next 3-5 years.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I could see that being the case, though the US has been testing things in the same vein itself.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Bender-Meme:

*Selfhosters: I build my own Internet With Blackjack and Hookers

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this community is dead, the day Canada, U.S. and Eu asks lemmy to "verify" our ages

or we're all on a vpn connected to a server in ??? Mongolia?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I already use tor to connect to Lemmy.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Tor won't help if the instance is in U.K. (or soon Canada &c) and responsible for "verifying your age"

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

it is not helping him now, so at least he will be familiar with that feeling 😂

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I guess the instance needs to use tor too.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Is it possible to start a new one?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

The problem is not the internet itself. If you started a new internet protocol, you'd still be controlled by the same laws

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago
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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

They're not done. Making VPNs illegal is next. Another stupid law to make sure people aren't bypassing the other stupid law.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Europeanconservative, really?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

It's encouraging to see support for anti-censorship across the political spectrum

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Wait I don't understand. Did they cancel https? How about ftp? Ssh?

Or are they requiring some half baked bullshit in a browser to catch the lowest common denominator?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Half-baked bullshit. You can get around it with a VPN or a copy of Death Stranding 2

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Personally I believe the world was a better place before the Internet existed. It was more personal, more local. The billionaire tech class was created by the Internet and are actively damaging the world for their own personal gain. Good mental health is almost non-existent for those who are always online - and that is a purposeful construct so that they will be online more and create even more revenue for the tech billionaires. The initial romantic notion that the internet would provide education and information and connection has been dwarfed by the damage it has caused. The most 'internet raised generation - Gen Z' is notoriously disconnected and isolated compared to previous generations. In short, if the Internet ceased to exist tomorrow, a decade from now the world would probably be a better place.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

The billionaire tech class was created by the Internet and are actively damaging the world for their own personal gain.

I hate to tell you but there were billionaires and multi-millionaires way before the internet and they were damaging the world horrendously for greed and personal gain. They even have this system structured around allowing them to do that called capitalism.

So no the internet didn't create that. Capitalism created that. Just as it created the climate change denial oil industry and the people who made money off of destroying the planet with that and would still be doing so without the internet. Just as it made dishonest press barons who loved Nazi Germany such as Randolph Hearst way before the internet existed and for a more modern example Rupert Murdoch. Just as before that it created incentives to hide and denial tobacco caused cancer or that asbestos caused cancer and other diseases or that lead poisoned us especially children. And on and on. Or the Triangle Shirt-waist fire and thousands of incidents just like that around the world where people are killed in poorly maintained factories kept that way out of greed. Or companies that pump poison into the water and air because it's cheaper. I could go on forever.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'd say capitalism ruined the Internet, rather than the other way around. Early Internet was janky but amazing

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

The billionaire tech class was created by the Internet

No. You had tech billionaires before the internet as well.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I thought I was the only one pondering on this. It's been a wild ride and I'm so glad I got to take part in the 90s, when web 1.0 was wild and free. What a blast that was.

But it's over now, we've ruined it, like we ruin everything, and I hope soon we'll all be collectively ready as a species to dance on the grave of our dead internet.

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