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Anybody who bought a Tesla in the last few years is a goddamn tool. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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We've known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it's a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they're not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we've seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you've bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you're a damn goober in my eyes. That's my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don't matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I've been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don't understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

People should separate the quality of the products, produced by the workers, from the batshit insane politics and mindset of the owners. I have a Tesla, and I recognize Elon is a protofascist dick, but the CEOs of other companies are just better at maintaining their image, they're part of the same parasitic class that Elon is a part of.

I bought a Tesla for the power, infrastructure, etc. but I don't generally recommend Teslas. If you don't care about 0-60 time, and you can hold out until 2024/2025, lots of EVs will adopt the NACS standard and be able to use almost the entire supercharging network. Other vehicles will likely be better and/or cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I don't think this is an unpopular opinion. Politics aside, you have to be ignorant to make this purchase. A little research will show you this is not the most reliable of product.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

People buy plenty of really shitty combustion engine cars too...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I can easily tell the difference between a 2013 vs 2023 Toyota Camry.

I literally can't tell the difference between a 2013 and 2023 Model S.

That's the real problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think you're living in an online Reddit bubble. I'm not an Elon fan at all, and most people in the real world don't drive cars based on their political affiliation.Lots of CEOs of major car companies are slimy and have been involved in scandals.

I bought my model 3 for $50k CAD after incentives and tax which is expensive but not an absurd price, and have had 0 problems with it after 2 years and it's an amazing car. I know about the quality control issues with some cars but the warranty is good. I'm pretty sure the oldest Teslas on the road are 13+ years old so I'm pretty happy I'll get to drive it for so long.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Who cares man, this is rich people shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We’ve known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it’s a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Do know you know anything about the companies you buy from every day? Do you know the CEOs of all the food companies, the phone companies, the car companies, the apps you use, the coffee you drink, the clothes you wear? Most of them are just as bad or worse. The media likes shitting on Elon Musk so you hear most of the bad shit about him. If you think Musk is even close to being the worst CEO, you are grossly misinformed.

If your bar for not buying from a company is that the owner is a dipshit and the products are flawed, I hope you're ready to start a commune in the woods and become a subsistence farmer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I agree with your premise. However I think that comparing Tesla and Musk to, say, the CEO of the company where you buy you coffee or clothes is a false equivalence.

The reasons I think OPs point is a bit more valid in the case of Tesla:

A vehicle is the second highest value purchase most people will make in their lives after a house. It deserves extra scrutiny
Musk has shown a willingness to do things with his companies that are either out of spite, for his own amusement, or are otherwise wildly against his companies' best interest. There are lots of CEOs who are shitbags, but most are actually trying to do what's best for their companies' bottom line.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Implying that people actually don't do this level of research is naive. Lots of people are conscientious about what companies they purchase from. Lots of people do exactly this level of research.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I’ve had a model 3 for 5 years and of the more than 10 I’ve had in my old age, it is by far the best, safest, most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I based my purchase on the vehicle, not the fucking CEO you nimrod. I will buy another in the future.

I hate Trump. Does that mean I should have stopped buying anything American for 4 years?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think the biggest issue...well maybe issue isn't the right word, but it's easy for people to go "tesla is the best car I've ever known" but it is only part of the story. It's easy to love the idea of an electric car, I'm honestly interested in getting one for my next vehicle. I just want to know how many people that love tesla have owned any other electric vehicles. And of those that have, I'd love their opinions of both.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Has anyone else seen any Teslas with the T thingy taken off? I feel like that's a booming business.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teslas have some serious issues and shortcomings. And I say that as an owner. FSD is a mess and I don't trust it. The model 3 has some very opinionated design choices. I don't like how it's frameless. The interior is nowhere near as nice as cars in the same price range. There's only 2 usb ports and you need to use one of them for dashcam storage. Maintenance is a pain in the ass to DIY. They remove key features over OTA updates(they took away radar sensors for parking in older model 3s).

However, if you're in the market for a used EV under 30k, you've only got basically 3 options: a rwd model 3, a leaf, or a bolt. The model 3 is the only one of those that has fast charging and can be taken on any sort of longer road trip. And they're cheap to charge at home. And even if you're shopping new, I'm fairly sure the base model 3 is the cheapest EV on the market if you qualify for the full tax credit.

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