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We've known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it's a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they're not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we've seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you've bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you're a damn goober in my eyes. That's my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don't matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I've been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don't understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with your premise. However I think that comparing Tesla and Musk to, say, the CEO of the company where you buy you coffee or clothes is a false equivalence.

The reasons I think OPs point is a bit more valid in the case of Tesla:

  • A vehicle is the second highest value purchase most people will make in their lives after a house. It deserves extra scrutiny
  • Musk has shown a willingness to do things with his companies that are either out of spite, for his own amusement, or are otherwise wildly against his companies' best interest. There are lots of CEOs who are shitbags, but most are actually trying to do what's best for their companies' bottom line.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're right about extra scrutiny being appropriate for more valuable purchases. However, you also have to consider the fact that most people buy a car every 8-10 years or so. When you compare the money spent on one car, versus money spent on 8 years of food, I think the gap is smaller than you might expect.

To the second point, yes, I think Musk is extremely petty. It's very grating and seems very obnoxious, but I don't think it necessarily follows that being spiteful is going to be worse overall for society than doing what's best for a company's "bottom line". If you look at a company like Nestle, everything they do is for their bottom line, and they're one of the most evil entities on the planet. Kind of the whole problem with large corporations today is precisely that their "bottom line" is in direct conflict with what's best for everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twitter's valuation has dropped precipitously since Musk got involved. We have pretty solid evidence that his assholery is directly injurious to the company. I'm not saying that it's any better or worse for society, I'm saying that makes me not want to spend $75k+ for a product from a company that is being destabilized by their fuckboy CEO. When I'm spending that kind of money I want to spend it at a company that I can rely on.

As for the food comparison, how am I supposed to consider 8-10 years' worth of food the same as I consider a single purchase? That it is the same amount of money cumulatively doesn't really matter. 8-10 years of food is thousands of individual purchases and purchasing decisions, each offering an opportunity to adjust my habits or choices. If I buy a car and the company tanks, then I'm not getting updates, I'm maybe dealing with parts availability, etc. If the food I buy spoils or the company who makes it goes out of business because their CEO wanted to own some libs then I'm out the 5 bucks I spent right then on the one item.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not saying that it’s any better or worse for society, I’m saying that makes me not want to spend $75k+ for a product from a company that is being destabilized by their fuckboy CEO. When I’m spending that kind of money I want to spend it at a company that I can rely on.

Oh, in that case my comment doesn't really apply. I misread the OP and thought they were talking about the moral implications of supporting destructive or unethical companies. If you're just talking about trying to maximize the personal benefit of your purchases, I don't really have any strong opinions on that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago