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We've known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it's a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they're not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we've seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you've bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you're a damn goober in my eyes. That's my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don't matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I've been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don't understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't really understand the energy spent on this matter. Just vote with your wallet. Don't like Tesla? Awesome. Don't buy one. Like them? Go ahead.

People are allowed to like and dislike things and not everything is run on a manichean paradigm of extreme hyperbole where things are absolute shit or the best thing that's ever happened.

A Tesla seems, objectively, like an okay car that's fun but usually comes with drawbacks and QA issues. Some will be more enthused by the latest gadget. Some wont.

Then after that, Musk as a public figure, the bro hype, stupid dodgecoin memes, etc... All of that is just noise.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I actually would have wanted to get a Tesla and had been eyeing them for a bit when I knew relatively little about Musk. Since he showed the world what a toolshed he was and can't stop opening his stupid mouth... I won't do anything to support Musk at all, I'll never buy a Tesla with him around. I'd still want to go all electric, but just waiting for something relatively affordable and dependable to present itself.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Honestly the car industry as a whole is whack, not just Tesla.

Most manufacturers would screw over their customers as well as the planet if it means a bigger profit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I don't purchase things or make investments based on CEOs. The history of automaker CEOs is quite ugly. I also use Amazon, and Bezos is also a tremendously evil "tool." Just because a CEO is dumb enough to be loud-stupid in ways that are accessible to the public doesn't make them worse/better in my eyes.

Tesla as a company has great engineers, they've basically built a tremendous drivetrain on an incredible car frame, and they don't care at all about the interior fit and finish. Emphasizing Elon over the engineers that put those cars together is a disservice to the hard work of the people actually doing the work.

Teslas are some of the safest cars on the road. They're an engineers car: all the work is in the parts you can't see. You can hate Elon all you want, but if their safety record continues to be as stellar as it has been, I'll probably buy a Model Y in the next couple of years. Not because I love or hate Elon--he doesn't enter into the equation when I'm thinking about the safety of my family--but because the engineers at Tesla have designed a very safe electric car.

If all you look at are the loudest articles, the most repugnant tweets, have at. I'm looking for a car that, per mile, provides safe transportation. When it comes to electric cars (or any car, really), Tesla has consistently been at the top.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeahhhhhhhh if everyone bought vehicles based on CEOs/owners of companies, Volkswagen would uh, be rather dead at this point. Or have a very dedicated niche.

And Ford, as well. Henry Ford was not exactly a paragon of virtue.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

my favorite tesla fact is that the ass ends of the car are only held on with double sided tape and fall off cause they are so poorly designed that they fill with water when driving in the rain.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure where you got this from? The rear bumper on the Model Y is held on with a couple bolts and industry-standard body clips. You can watch a disassembly video here:

https://youtu.be/BWmAlfzCtoc?t=515

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s really interesting how musk has completely trashed his reputation over the past idk 3 years or so. I wonder if he’ll eventually be kicked out of Tesla. The brand has gone from aspirational to a sort of weird tech-bro joke. The huge advantage Tesla still has is in their charging network which is still miles better than anything else, unless you live in norway. With other pretty major manufacturers signing on to support the Tesla Charing standard (cockily named NACS) we’ll see where the industry ends up. Wonder if Tesla is thinking of transitioning from a car manufacturer to a charger enjoyer.

Op sounds like a douche tho.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I love my Leaf. Only 129 miles for range and can take longer than 12 hours to charge in my garage but not having bought gas for almost 5 years has been great and it's a joy to drive an electric car. I compared the Leaf to the Tesla Model 3 at the time and could find no reasons that the Leaf wasn't a better use of my money. Tesla electric cars seem like more of a status symbol than an environmental or economic decision in today's EV market.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Musk has lost a lot of respect over the years and that's continuing in the same trajectory. I always sensed he wasn't being honest and I guess he kind of is being more himself.

Tesla is way over priced than what it's actually worth to build the vehicles, this is based on what they've said themselves. The fact is it's in so much demand that as usual when that happens the price increases. Other companies just need to make the jump to EV vehicles for Tesla's to need to lower prices or improve even more, but your post reeks of some other reasoning to why you're posting this.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tesla's are very dangerous: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/10/tesla-autopilot-crashes-elon-musk/

Don't put your life and the life of those around you at risk by driving a Tesla

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That first example is just pure stupidity on the driver - crashes when the "autopilot" makes a sudden, unexpected movement are clearly the automations fault, but seeing that your car isn't slowing down when approaching a school bus and just "waiting to see what happens" is why that person should never be able to drive ever again.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The problem is Tesla's marketing.

For years Elon said "The car drives itself, you don't need a driver". That is why Tesla drivers do such stupid things.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Fuck you for trying to buy a car that you might enjoy, now get back to the shitty car companies who have a monopoly on the automotive business."

Like seriously, Hate Elon all you want, but no we haven't known "for years" and you claims on "safety items" seems dubious at best. But more importantly people wanted a specific car. If you buy it specifically because of Elon, ok, but most people just want the best car, and pretending the automotive industry isn't filled with the absolute worst of humanity (Far worse than Elon, just not public facing enough)... like you're kidding yourself bud.

If you’ve bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you’re a damn goober in my eyes. That’s my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.

Here's my hot take, I really don't give a shit what you think, and I'm saying this as a non-Tesla owner. It's not about you being poor, or any other salty, you're a pure asshole (let me guess BMW driver). You belittle others who "opinions don't matter" but I'm really struggling why does anyone care what you think at that rate?

And no this being "Unpopular" isn't good enough this is just a shitty argument. This is OP just being argumentative and insulting.

Hell the "Elaine" joke should offend those who propose to care about gendered insults, but I suppose that will be accepted because "Bad man deserved it" or something. Do the same to Elliot Page, and you'd be crucified though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've never once bought or not bought a product because of who the CEO is. I'm definitely not going to start now.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I opted for a Chevy Bolt instead of a Tesla, primarily because of the cost being lower. Secondarily it was because Musk is a dipshit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

get a jeep tire rotation at dealer service and they add unscheduled brake maintenance not covered under warranty. $900. Tesla checked wear in my driveway and said it wasn't needed. $0.00

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

agreed, but people still support amazon & apple like they're the next coming of christ. there are no ethical corporations under capitalism

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

There is no ethical "consumption" under capitalism correct. That being said, you still try to avoid giving white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers money.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

People should separate the quality of the products, produced by the workers, from the batshit insane politics and mindset of the owners. I have a Tesla, and I recognize Elon is a protofascist dick, but the CEOs of other companies are just better at maintaining their image, they're part of the same parasitic class that Elon is a part of.

I bought a Tesla for the power, infrastructure, etc. but I don't generally recommend Teslas. If you don't care about 0-60 time, and you can hold out until 2024/2025, lots of EVs will adopt the NACS standard and be able to use almost the entire supercharging network. Other vehicles will likely be better and/or cheaper.

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