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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

I thought the billion dollars of excrement they bought was OpenAI

self-five 🙏 ohhhhhh

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

You're off by a factory of 13x

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

I'm surprised they had to outsource that as they have been producing so much shit for decades.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I always said it. Micro$oft is full of shit

[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tecnowashing is also fraud.

Take a failed concept like the gold standard, technowash it, and you get crypto scamcoins.

Greenwashing, sportswashing (saudi arabia), sanewashing (presenting insane ideas as debatable ideas, like debating human rights with someone who is against human rights ends up sanewashing the anti-rights position), small business washing (using ostensibly a pro small business argument to push a fortune 100 agenda), worker washing (treat workers like shit in private but make pro worker noises in public), gender washing (the politician with an anti-woman agenda is a woman so it's OK), minority washing (a fascist pundit is a minority that fascism often targets, so fascism is OK now). Now we can add tecnowashing to the list.

Another example of technowashing is when a real estate company presents itself as a tech startup to inflate its valuation.

All this washing has exploded in recent years.

[-] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago

Apart from the questionable practice of buying CO2 credits (or whatever the practice is called), pumping shit underground does not seem like the best way to save the ecosphere. It could've produced energy and/or useful products in various ways but oh no, that would have been too expensive.

This prevents it from being dumped at a waste disposal site, where it would eventually decompose and release carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

This is the only reason this practice is deemed carbon-emission-friendly. Color me skeptical.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

My first thought was...how is this a good thing, we get a lot of our water from ground water...and now we're pumping toxic shit into the ground. The fuck

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Devil's advocate says: 5000 ft is probably below groundwater level. But tbh idk. Hell, they could even use spent oil reservoirs.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

use spent oil reservoirs

Ok, that lead to some giggles thinking about some company drilling in the future thinking they were about to hit a strangely untapped oil field.

Add a hundred years of methane pressure build up and that could be really interesting gusher.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Watching Landman or you just familiar with the lingo?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, was I using the correct lingo for hundred year old methane powered shit gushers? I had no idea. Lol!

[-] [email protected] 107 points 3 days ago

to offset AI carbon emissions

Does it actually do that?

[-] [email protected] 74 points 3 days ago

It's usually nonsense. I remember some carbon offsets being a guy owning a forest and essentially selling his inaction as a carbon offset. Give me a million dollars so I don't chop all those trees down which I totally would've done otherwise. It's just pushing numbers around on a spreadsheet.

In this case I can imagine their calculations being wildly off. How much CO2/methane does a ton of poop actually release? How much CO2 is released to transport that ton and build the facilities that hold it?

[-] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago

There's even worse stuff: Planting trees is sold as carbon offset. But where do you plant trees? Certainly not on valuable farmland. Instead they drain bogs to plant trees instead.

The issue is that bogs can store about 10x as much CO² as a forest can, and by draining the bog, that CO² is released.

And bog land isn't exactly well-suited for growing trees, and also the carbon offset only pays for planting the trees, not for keeping them alive. So the trees die almost instantly, thus releasing their stored CO². But the upside to it is that on the now re-deforested land, more trees can be planted.

It's complete greenwashing with at best no effect and at worst terrible effects.

The main issue with planting trees to remove CO² is that a forest doesn't consume CO² but instead just stores it. Once a forest is fully-grown, no more CO² is sunk in there. A hectare of forest stores ~400t CO2. Germany creates about 650 million tons CO² per year. So to offset that, Germany would need to plant 1.6 million hectars of forest a year, which is about 4.5% of the surface area of Germany. 32% of Germany is already forest, so that leaves a theoretical maximum of 14.5 years of CO² emissions that Germany could offset by planting trees.

But Germany has been creating CO² for much longer.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah i was expecting the externalized cost route with this one.

[-] [email protected] 83 points 3 days ago

In the eyes of the board of directors, sure . Plantings a billion worth of trees would probably have been too green

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

Technically it's more common to pay investment firms with forest land to not cut down the trees they weren't going to cut down to begin with.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

No. Carbon offsetting is a scam and does not do shit for the environment.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Some poop releases methane, a much worse greenhouse gas than Co2.

Fun fact, when striking oil, you often encounter methane pockets as well, the gas is commonly just burned in a giant flare, this is mainly done for safety, to prevent gas from accumulating on the ground and risking an explosion, but also far reduce the greenhouse effect of the gas.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

The thing is that these carbon credits make it so that things which would otherwise reduce CO2 in the atmosphere don't happen unless some money changes hands. Most of the time credits effectively do nothing.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Yeap, CCs are mostly BS.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile I’m out here pooping for free like a chump!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I poop on company time.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We truly are in the metaverse era.

They found a way to convert physical shit into virtual shit.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

And vice versa!

[-] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago

Microsoft buys back all the crap they sold us for years.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

But that's fertilizer! WTF?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

It's also precious cheap carbon credit, don't worry it will only increase world wide fertilize costs by the value of the carbon credits but thing of all the methane they can burn to make electricity.

It's like converting our fertilizer directly into electricity, except its carbon sequestered 5000 feet under ground !

Maybe the fertilizer prices will increase so much it will become worththile to dig that 5000 feet mine and get that fertilizer back in the bio carbon cycle in 30 years when fertilizer costs more than aluminium does today !

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

Can't make this shit up.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

I've been calling them that for years 🤣🤣🤣

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

What about the nutrients in the waste? Why not compost it, capture the methane offgassing, and store that?

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

So this is what they plan to do with all the game studios they bought over the years.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

When the planet burns down, the will be the ones who "did something about it"

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Idiots!! That stuff ain't worth shit!

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Fight shit with shit.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Damn from that photo it looks like some people have a seriously high fiber diet.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Microsoft has just signed a deal with Vaulted Deep, paying it to remove 4.9 million metric tons of waste over 12 years sourced from manure, sewage, and agricultural byproducts for injection deep underground.

https://investigatemidwest.org/2023/12/07/us-push-to-produce-methane-from-manure-raises-concerns/

“It can provide a substantial portion of global energy needs,” Rudi Roeslein , CEO of Roeslein Alternative Energy, told the attendees. His company has built farm-based methane systems around the country that produce enough fuel to displace 6 million gallons of diesel fuel and 80,000 cars. “If we do this on a large scale in the U.S. we could generate $63.6 billion worth of revenue for farmers around the country.”

Roeslein’s company promises on its website to “restore a balance” to farmland “by using the sustainably harvested biomass to create renewable natural gas.”

A million BTUs (MMBTu) of methane digested from manure is currently worth $3 in the value of the gas

I know where to find a valuable source of methane in 12 years.

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