I'm amazed it's only $800. I figured that shit was gonna be like 8-10 thousand.
Yeah, I expected it to level out around $800 after a few years, not out of the gate. 20TB are still $300 ish new.
Me who stores important data on seagate external HDD with no backup reading the comments roasting seagate:
This hard drive is so big that when it sits around the house, it sits around the house.
This hard drive is so big when it moves, the Richter scale picks it up.
Is it worth replacing within a year only to be sent a refurbished when it dies?
That's a lot of porn. And possibly other stuff, too.
Nah, the other stuff will all fit on your computer's hard drive, this is only for porn. They should call it the Porn Drive.
It isn't as much as you think, high resolution, high bitrate video files are pretty large.
And possibly other stuff, too.
Ehhh don't test me
I'm gonna need like 6 of these
monkey's paw curls They're SMR
Seems fine with a couple TB of SSDs to act as active storage with regular rsyncs back to the HDDs. This is fine.
The first copy of anything big will suck ass.... and why else would you get a 36TB drive if not to copy a lot of data to it?
My primary storage use-case is physical media backups. I literally don't care how long it takes to store, a bluray is 70GB and I've got around 200 of em to backup.
Does it really matter that much if the first copy takes a while though? Only doing it once and you don't even have to do it all in 1 go. Just let it run over the weekend would do though.
no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
Every manufacturer has made a product that failed.
I can certainly understand holding grudges against corporations. I didn’t buy anything from Sony for a very long time after their fuckery George Hotz and Nintendo's latest horseshit has me staying away from them, but that was a single firmware bug that locked down hard drives (note, the data was still intact) a very long time ago. Seagate even issued a firmware update to prevent the bug from biting users it hadn’t hit yet, but firmware updates at the time weren’t really something people thought to ever do, and operating systems did not check for them automatically back then like they do now.
Seagate fucked up but they also did everything they could to make it right. That matters. Plus, look at their competition. WD famously lied about their red drives not being SMR when they actually were. And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me. And guess who owns sandisk? Western Digital!
I guess if you must go with a another company, there’s the louder and more expensive Toshiba drives but I have never used those before so I know nothing about them aside from their reputation for being loud.
but then wd and their fake red nas drives with smr tech?
what else we have?
Wait.. fake? I just bought some of those.
they were selling wd red (pro?) drives with smr tech, which is known to be disastrous for disk arrays because both traditional raid and zfs tends to throw them out. the reason for that is when you are filling it up, especially when you do it quickly, it won't be able to process your writes after some time, and write operations will take a very long time, because the disk needs to rearrange its data before writing more. but raid solutions just see that the drive is not responding to the write command for a long time, and they think that's because the drive is bad.
it was a few years ago, but it was a shitfest because they didn't disclose it, and people were expecting that nas drives will work fine in their nas.
I've had a couple random drop from my array recently, but they were older so I didn't think twice about it. Does this permafry them or can you remove from the array and reinitiate for it to work?
Pretty sure I had a bigger hard drive than that for my Amiga. You could have broken a toe if you’d dropped it.
with this I can store at least 3 modern "AAA" games
Oh definitely, game sizes are getting extreme and I prefer smaller indie games now 🥲
Makes me shudder. I have to replace a drive in my array, because it is degraded. It's a 4TB. Imagine having to replace one of these. I'd much rather have a bunch of cheaper drives, even if they are a bit more expensive per TB, because the replacement cost will eventually make the total cost of ownership lower.
Also, repeat with me: "Please give me a Toshiba or Hitachi, please"
Until you run out of ports or cage space 😂
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