"Global antisemitism on the rise". Is that because Israel turned genocidal against the Palestinians?
More specifically it's because Israel and its allies are running a successful global campaign of conflating opposition to its genocide with antisemitism, which, in turn, normalises antisemitism, which, obviously, harms Jewish people everywhere.
I still agree with the “Jews against Zionism” crowd who take great offense to the idea that anti-genocide is the same as antisemitism. Because that seems to insinuate that genocide is linked to Judaism, which in itself is a pretty antisemitic idea.
If I was a non Israeli Jew, I would be PISSED at Israel for that exact reason.
I won't say the same of Israelis, because looking at the percentages who are pro leave no Palestinians alive, they seem too much like a blood lusted cult to care about the opinions of.
And yes I know the Palestinians feel the same way, but the party with the bigger stick matters and always shoulders the burden of wielding that stick responsibly, and Israel has no interest in that.
As a non-Israeli Jew I will confirm, I am very very very fucking pissed not just because they have made the world less safe for me but because this poison of national narcissism has used our trauma as a tool of evil. I can't participate or be near my own culture anymore which was once a deep comfort for me who's last memories of many of my late loved ones being our shared religious ceremonies. The name of Israel on my lips in prayer now sours the kiddush wine.
"well, if the shoe fits"
well, if the shoe fits
Well, the shoe fits.
The "if you're criticizing Israel then you are an antisemitic" argument is getting really really old and fucking tired.
I have never in my life had any issues with anyone who is Jewish just because they are Jewish. Nor will I ever. But I have serious issues with the state of Israel committing war crimes on a daily basis and expecting not to be held accountable.
100%, fuck the country of Israel, the people leading the country, and the people hands on murdering civilians. Death to the IDF.
My Jewish friends never bought into it either.
attacking a defenseless neighboring people
They’re so close to figuring it out
They know. They like committing genocide. They just don’t want international consequences for it.
Its antisemitic to say its bad to bomb defenseless people....
"they're showing a country of mostly white people invading and brutalizing a defenseless country of brown people which is clearly about Israel-palestine"
c/selfawarewolves
The whole “calling out Israel for genocide means you’re antisemitic” line is so worn out and honestly just exhausting, this post made me laugh!
My parents watch PBS Newshour and are very anti-Israel because of what they're doing to Palestine. One night, PBS ran a piece about how Israel's PR was labeling any criticism of Israel's action as "anti-semitism" and my folks were naturally incensed by this. The very next night, PBS ran a piece about the statistically increasing occurrence of anti-semitism in the world - without any discussion of just the possibility that much of that increase is due to criticisms of Israel being labeled as anti-semitism. My parents, of course, were then incensed about all the anti-semitism.
Israel has spent like 4+ decades trying desperately to associate criticism of israel with antisemitism. And the world has complied, Hell its now a crime punishable by decades in prison just to support Palestine in the UK. Gotta wonder how Churchill hasnt lept out of his grave and started cockslapping motherfuckers.
Netanyahu also used to have a penchant for comparing people who refused to gargle his fucking balls to Hitler, in a blatant attempt to shame people into Israeli compliance. Hasnt done it so much anymore, Probably because descriptions of Hitler and his actions would rub too uncomfortably close to what Netanyahu and Israel are doing now a days.
I actually want to watch Superman now, and I will 100% assume this genocidal US ally is a stand-in for Israel and appreciate it all the more for it, because the shoe certainly fits.
I didn't catch on to the allegories in the film until after I finished watching it. I can, however, attest that it really is a great film. It's funny when it wants to be, tells a story I found interesting, and really feels like a comic book in some of the best ways.
I see where Trump got his name calling ideas from.
Pretty soon even Schindler's List will be "anti-Semitic" for these people...
I choose to believe these are rage-bait and false flags. Otherwise, multiple someones managed to learn a language with so little introspection and contextual understanding that I'd have to downgrade them to an LLM.
They're mad that they're identifying with the genocidal, colonizing villains of the story?
Someone have context if we haven’t seen the new superman?
Also I want to scream a million times. Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.
Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.
Mixing that up is intentional, so that you can be accused of being antisemitic by not supporting Israel. Politicians love to do this.
At the start of the movie, Superman has just stopped an invasion. The fictional country Barovia, a US ally, has advanced weaponry and attempts to invade and annex a much smaller and poorer fictional country Jarhanpur which doesn't appear to have a military of any kind. Barovia is ethnically white (coded as Eastern European/Russian) and Jarhanpur is ethnically more middle eastern.
It is not a giant leap to correlate these countries to Isreal and Palestine, but really those superficial details are where the the similarities begin and end. There is no apparent religious connection to the invasion, nor terrorist activity. No ongoing tensions, direct involvement from the US goverment in the invasion, or any act of war or other event that triggers Barovia to invade. It is just a powerful country attacking a smaller country for their resources on the orders of a power hungry dictator. It's a trope that is not exclusively related to current events, that made as much sense 50 years ago as it does today. And the purpose of it in the film is to both critique Superman's naivete of geopolitics, and to reinforce his values that every life matters.
People that are mad about it and pretending that it is explicitly a depiction of the Isreali-Palestinian war are projecting meaning that isn't there, at least beyond maybe some subtext. It's always a bit telling when people see generic bad guys in a movie and think, "this is about me!" But, of course, if they felt that the depiction of the overwhelming military force against civilians made the Palestinians seem sympathetic to them... maybe they should think a bit more about why that is.
I haven't seen it, but I think it's pretty apparent in the trailer. Superman is supermaning, and modern powers, both real and fictional, don't like that.
“Superman has somehow become the focal point of the entire world’s attention and I cannot accept that.”
Damn, Lex Luther is even more an Elon Musk type in this movie huh?
This complaint is such an admission. They can't point to a single similarly between Israel and the bad guys in the movie except, "nation with technology advanced weaponry being deployed against unarmed civilians," and they're not even disputing that that's an accurate depiction of what's happening. It's not like they're saying, "this movie parallels Hamas propaganda." They're saying, "depicting colonial genocide negatively is anti-Israel."
Yes it is totally Hollywood making Israel look bad, not the shooting caged brown people part.
Bloody anti-Semitic Hollywood. It's so typical and clearly there are no Jews working there...
Wow, it's actually amazing how far they can combine self-awareness and denial so effortlessly.
It’s not our fault your state became so evil they are interchangeable with cartoon villains.
All this whining about that movie makes me want to see it more and more. If this is intentional, it will be remembered as the best marketing campaign in history.
Andor is just one such example of this.
This shit is why I joke that every work of fiction needs to end with the protagonist staring directly at the camera and explaining what the audience is supposed to take away from it, 1950's style, because people are too stupid for subtlety. Yes, yes, very clever to name the site of a genocide "G[horman Pl]aza," and have a character specifically emphasize the word "genocide" in a Senate chamber, but StrikeEagle784 sees all that and goes, "Wow, cool lasers" without understanding anything about anything.
Now, imagine if Andor ended with Cassian taking a seat and saying, "Hi, I'm Cassian Andor, and I hope you enjoyed the show. Were you moved by the plight of the Ghormans and inspired to fight the Empire? Well, just like how the Empire conducted a genocide against Ghorman, in real life, the US and Israel are committing genocide against the people of Gaza. That's actually the reason why that's in the show. Early on, I tried to turn a blind eye to injustice, but I found that ignoring the problem didn't make it go away. This is also true in real life. In summary, the genocide in Gaza is bad and you should do something about it."
Would that be stupid and annoying? Yes. But this is the level of art that we deserve. At least, it's the level of art that StrikeEagle784 deserves.
"we're seeing similarities between us and fictional villains and we don't like it"
Well, if the shoe fits.
If you see yourself in the bad guys actions, maybe do something else...
Well, if the shoe fits.
I like how they don't even bother saying it's a lie. They just say it's aimed at them.
why the fuck would I ever listen or subscribe to a subreddit know as r/israel
fuck net-nannny-yahoo
Oh I guess I'm going to see the new Superman now.
Wait, I thought the Jews ran Hollywood and controlled all of the media? How is it possible a movie like this exists?
That being said. Free palestine ♡
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