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[–] 134 points 1 year ago (15 children)
  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Yeah, literally nobody in my circle of gamer friends and acquaintances has any interest whatsoever in buying the new Switch. Not a single one. Not even the ones that were previously diehard Nintendo and Zelda fans.

    Zero.

    Crap like this is really underscoring why. Nintendo has ramped up their already user-hostile behavior far beyond the point of absurdity.

    The happy-fluffy-starry-eyed wording in this article taking great pains to point out how "easy" it was for this person to have their fraudulent ban reversed are doing way too much heavy lifting. It never should have happened in the first place, and there shouldn't even be any mechanism that makes it a remote possibility.

    And then there's this:

    Nevertheless, it remains unclear whether they can still play with the used game cartridges they purchased, or if these are considered pirated copies that could result in another console ban if used.

    Uh-huh. Miss me with every single molecule of that shit.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Holy crap that was a fast reply lol. The part where they were like “at least it’s not as bad as m$ and Sony” like bruh THEY SHOULDNT BE DOING THIS AT ALL

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    This is significantly worse than anything I've experienced from Microsoft. I've never heard stories of consoles just getting bricked. I'm sure they exist, but it didn't make the news from frequency. Consoles shouldn't be bricked.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Just to clarify, the console wasn't bricked, only banned from online use. Which also means banned from accessing eshop or downloading any updates. But physical games that doesn't require online would work fine.

    Not that this is fine, shouldn't be banned for this either, but just clarifying the bricking part.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    But physical games that doesn’t require online would work fine.

    Do we know this for sure? On the original Switch, when new games came out, they often would refuse to play until you updated the firmware on the console. So depending on whether they allow banned consoles to update their firmware, offline games might not work either.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ah, I see. I've been hearing stories of them getting bricked as well. Unrelated, but controller drift problems were reported on day 2. I would like to recommend abstaining from the purchase of any Nintendo products for the forseeable future. Seems like they hate their customers and aren't really willing to change, no matter what. Zelda and Mario are pretty cool, but I think that at this point, Nintendo is just running on nostalgia and brand recognition.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago

    Imagine buying a hardware, and the manufacturer holds it hostage and can brick it anytime, or it can ban you from all online activities, unless you use it as intended.

    It just happens that intended use also maximises profit for them.

    Fuck Nintendo sideways.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago

    Imagine paying $450 for nintendo to play judge and jury over your property

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

    I do wonder what a more permanent solution for these sorts of situations could be, as right now these things are case by case. Either Nintendo tolerates the use of cloned cartridge IDs (which is something no game company/publisher/whatever have you would ever accept), or they bring down the ban hammer on random people who just bought a used game and had no idea it was used for copying (which is just a dick move). Nobody buying a used game is going to have any real idea where it came from, and in a lot of used stores the carts probably get mixed around anyway. Having any sort of checker for cloned IDs would also be difficult, as Nintendo's systems probably only catch it when both are in use at the same time. Perhaps they could use some system to look for MIG Switch use specifically, and only block that cartridge? That would probably be the best way to go about it, but I'm not so sure about the technical details that would make such a thing work, as it would require some reverse engineering of the MIG Switch.

    EDIT: I do think as well this article is too generous to Nintendo. The writer focuses on how easy it was to get unbanned, rather than the ban in the first place. Nintendo should at least start sending an email warning or something before deciding to block online. That would give people a change to figure out what is going on, instead of waking up one day to find they can't access the eShop or GameChat.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I have a foolproof way to never get banned on switch 2.

    1. Don't buy a switch 2.
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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Damn. The people who work at Nintendo truly are assholes. I'll never buy a single product associated with these morally and creatively bankrupted people.

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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Imagine if this happened to a child, or someone who's got no knowledge about the topic. Your 600$ birthday gift will just rest in piss, because you bought a game someone had cloned previously, and there's 0 way to know about it, until you're already banned

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Yeah, nobody buying used games will know that it was previously used for cloning. Hopefully they ease off on the bans until they can figure out a better idea on how to deal with MIG Switch.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    While I still have a nostaligic soft spot for Nintendo IPs like Mario and Metroid, I'll never give Nintendo a cent again for being a bunch of greedy asshats. Emulators are love, emulators are life, fuck Nintendo.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Nintendo is going to die a slow painful death bcz of shit like this. I dont know a single person who wants a switch 2.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    🏴‍☠️

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I got one as a gift, but I'm not sure why they're selling so well. I haven't bought a single new game for it yet. There's nothing I wanna play until maybe Metroid.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well, launch year sales are generally by enthusiasts. I got one cause I love my Switch, and my wish for Switch 2 was faster and better Switch, which is exactly what they gave us. So, bought it as soon as I could.

    As for games, looking forward to Donkey Kong Bananza, not to mention I have a many Switch 1 games that I have yet to play, so don't have any shortage of games.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Reason number 245 of why not to buy a Nintendo switch.

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  • I just had an interesting exchange with a nintendrone about this topic. Apparently, nintendo did the right thing because the guy who bought the game shouldn't go buying from shady people and, even if it was a store, then, the store is at fault (and not Nintendo), because the store should test the games they buy to guarantee that they won't cause a ban.

    But in no way was Nintendo at fault for treating their customers as guilty until proven innocent.

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  • [+] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Same would happen with the Switch 1 if you play pirated games through sigpatch though

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I've been enjoying PC games a lot even though I have a Switch 1. I might even repurchase Balatro on Steam.

    Like Terraria is hell on Switch, so I've already eaten that cost so why not for the other 3rd-party games I have?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I've stated repurchasing my Switch games on Steam (when rebates apply)

    My switch games were all digital copies except for Zelda and Sea of Stars. I don't know if they'll even be available in the future should I accidentally delete them.

    Eventually I might mod my Switch when it's not supported anymore by Nintendo and it doesn't connect to their network anymore.

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