I'd be in Aukland now if I hadn't met my partner between deciding in 2021 and the election. She is a refugee and can't leave or she'll lose status. She is a political enemy of her government for advocating for democracy there. Did a phone interview and everything.
I googled a bit, my best bet is Canada.
Large population of the Chinese diaspora, so I don't feel too much like a minority (I am Chinese American).
The other choice is Australia.
EU is great, but since the UK isn't in EU anymore, I'd have to chose a non-English country, meaning, I'd have to learn another language. My brain can't handle that. Already have 3 spoken and 2 written languages stuck in my head (mostly dormant, haven't used some those languages for a while), I think my brain will explode if I try to learn more. Population of the Chinese diaspora is too small. So I'd also feel alone, because like... Imagine living in a place where nobody looks like you. Like a Black American kid in the deep south of the US and all your classmates are white, that's how it feels basically. As for the UK, I wouldn't need to learn another language, but UK just had a xenophobic riot in 2024, doesn't seem too friendly in my opinion. If the UK was in EU, I could just pack up and to go another EU country if Shit Hits the Fan, its what I like about the EU, options. But too bad UK isn't in EU...
There is also Singapore, which has like over 70% ethnic Chinese, and the official languages include English and Mandarin, which I already know.
Not technically "dream countries", but the most realistic countries that would be livable for me. Because I doubt I can speak Norweigian or Finnish. (Even tho I would love those countries)
TLDR: As a Chinese American, Canada as first choice, Australia as second place. Then probably Sinapore.
(Sorry if I'm rambling, can't express it coherently since ICE raids are on my mind)
Edit: I would probably also say Taiwan as an option, well... other than the fact that they are constantly on the verge of getting invaded, and I am not fond of the CCP.
I would go back to Japan if my partner could/would learn the language.
I was trying to repatriate to Italy but they closed down the policy that would have let me return with my family.
Chinese. I... don't think China accepts immigration, so I don't think it matters what most Chinese people think of Americans. Not that I think China would be an ideal expat destination for most Americans anyway... China also have most of the problems US have. Maybe for some highly accomplished scientists/business executives who can be offered a job (since China is spending a lot on R&D), but that's probably it
As someone who lived in the US for a long time and actively considered this?
Probably Romania, cheap cost of living while still being in Europe and being a part of NATO.
Saint Kitts and Nevis. Economy sucks, internet too, but you can't beat the view.
Vietnam? Cuba? Hard to say, never having been out of the Continental USA.
Canada. I live on the border, been there more times than I can count, and it would be the easiest to move to.
What part?
Probably Argentina. Maybe SE Asia. But honestly, where ever all my friends decided to move, since we'd prob drag each other to one place or another. Although most likely scenario there is that we'd become a travelling commune with no official country. If the US actually collapsed, I'd lose a ton of money and would need to find some kind of work, so I'd hit up my connections and probably get a remote software gig. Idk, I'll figure it out when it happens.
I'm an antinationalist with regards to usa. No
Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?
Stand and fight, you cowards.
How are we supposed to fight a nearly endless supply of morons along with overthrowing three branches of our government?
Have you not been screaming about guns for as long as anyone alive can remember?
You're condemning a lot of innocent people to die.
Cut the histrionics. Americans aren't being massacred. They are only asked to go to some minor inconvenience to uphold their country's democracy.
The distance between Chicago and Las Vegas is greater than between Berlin and the Russian front line in Ukraine. Are Germans supposed to feel pity for you poor darlings?
Only an idiot would stay and do that, if there are better opportunities out there. Furthermore intellectuals, scientists are the first to flee a fascist states, as they are the target of persecution first and foremost. Have you not been to history classes? Immigrants came here to flee from persecution form those countries, that you can get straight up murdered or jailed even before you pull a trigget
"Stay in Germany and fight, your cowards"
-@[email protected] said to Jewish Refugees in 1933
You're ignorant of history and that's a problem.
There were fewer than 500,000 jewish Germans in 1933. That's less than 1% of the population.
The millions who were murdered were mainly citizens of Poland and the Soviet Union. If the nations of Western Europe had prepared themselves better for war and fought with more tenacity, millions would have lived.
The absolute disaster that the Wehrmacht inflicted on the Soviet Union is largely the result of Stalin's defects. Dictators are bad; an obvious lesson. A less obvious lesson comes from the Generalplan Ost. The Nazis wanted to murder much of the population east of Germany; Poles, Czecks, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians, and others. Many tens of millions of individual human beings were to be killed, mainly through hunger. Then the territory was to be settled by Germans, That's the whole Lebensraum thing.
Where should all these people have gone?
That's why the Ukrainians today don't have a choice. Putin wants to eradicate the ukrainian ethnicity. We know that. We don't know how many people he is willing to murder; to physically eradicate. Would you take the chance?
In 1939, immediately before WW2 and the holocaust, the MS St. Louis sailed with 900 jewish refugees from Nazi Germany to Cuba. But Cuba refused to take them in, as it had just hardened its laws. The ship sailed to Canada and the USA, but they, too, refused. Something, something, race.
Eventually, the UK, France, Belgium, and the Netherlands took pity on these people and gave them shelter. Obviously, many of those on the continent were murdered in the Holocaust.
Where do you think 65 million US Latinos will go? They live in the US and they will die in the US. One way or the other.
I used to say this a lot, but the longer i live, the more i understand that "stand and fight" requires a lot of will power, especially when you have to rub shoulder with the jarring issue daily, the very issue that makes you want to leave, and the authority doesn't give a single fuck about it after countless report. In any case, it's the lost of faith toward the fellow countrymen, not the administration.
No need for muricans here
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