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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Tbf most migrants are either damn smart, hard workers or damn smart hard workers.

So, for a good future we should welcome them!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Brit here. I'd be happy to accept Dem voters. Fart voters can stay at home and eat their own dogshit. Non-voters too; they knew exactly who FartV1 was and I am genuinely surprised Harris couldn't get in simply on "I'm not Fart". They really thought she'd be worse?

And for those who get over here by lying about their vote; they incriminate themselves, and will be deported the moment we discover the truth.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago

I went to Norway. Big recommend. That said, I refuse to call myself an expat or use the term expatriate. I am an immigrant. I think it is weird that white westerners get a special word and everybody else are filthy immigrants.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

To me expat always referred to people that only stay temporarily, mostly sent abroad by the company they work at. As opposed to a migrant that is meaning to stay permanently (and eventually gains citizenship).

TIL the definition differs regionally (see wiki) and mostly not as I thought it was.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

It's semantics but the difference between expat and immigrants is an expat intends to return to their home country some day, where an immigrant does not.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

it's racism

if a westerner works with plans to return they are called expat, if it's a non western, they are called migrants labour or foreign workers and are treated like shit.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Yes, but connotatively it is just a marker of privilege. Especially here, since what we’re talking about is immigration, not temporary work.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago

I'm German and as far as I'm concerned the people who want to flee the current US administration are exactly the type of people you want to welcome with open arms.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

As a trans woman I might need somewhere to go and I desperately hope that when that day comes someone like you is in charge if deciding if I get to stay.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Are you specifically talking about north americans of european descent? As if Germany isn’t dipping right into their pre WW2 culture with Merz as chancellor and AfD getting more votes each year 🤡

Deutschland den Deutsche, Ausländer Raus

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm very concerned that people who choose to go to France will just find themselves in the exact same situation along with the rest of us not too long from now. I'd advise looking for a country with a lower fascism approval rating...

We do have lots of cheese, though, if it's any consolation.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

If they're genocidal dems or trump voter i think they should go to prison

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Somewhere it only snows a handful of times a year. I'm not about the cold life.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

Non-American here. All Americans, except MAGA muricans, are welcome.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

GingTFO isn't actually a huge problem for Americans. I've looked into it and the only reason I'm still here is that my wife refuses to leave and I love her too much to leave her. Dozens of countries will give Americans residency, although citizenship is usually a lot more difficult and/or takes years. There is usually a minimum income requirement, but you don't have to be rich. I've seen it in the $1200-$2k/mo range in multiple places. Of course this has to be income you can still make while you're in the new country, not a US job you're going to give up. Makes it pretty sweet for "digital nomads" tho who can work remotely.

A few countries highly rated by expats are Costa Rica, Panama, Uruguay (esp good environment for LGBTQ+), and Thailand. Vietnam doesn't even have a visa limit - technically it's 3 or 5 years but all you have to do is go away for like 30 days. There are lots of others. If you want to get started google "Americans moving abroad", there are tons of helpful videos and articles.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Netherlands here. The 862.409 Americans that voted for a better country (Jill Stein voters) are more than welcome here. Also, those who face illegal prosecution and genuine threat from the government, ICE and police. The rest would just move our political compass further to the authoritarian side, dems or reps.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I’m taking Spanish right now, both to better support immigrants in my community and to possibly move to Oaxaca Mexico if necessary. I plan to visit a few more times in the next year or so, just to figure out things just in case. I don’t feel like it’s the time to leave yet - I have a pretty good intuitive sense for disasters.

I LEANfired at 44 so I can’t really go somewhere that requires a work visa, and I’m not rich enough for a golden ticket in many places.

France is actually a possibility because I’m fluent, I lived there briefly- but I prefer the art and culture in Mexico, and generally people are easier to get to know.

I’m also visiting my friends off grid in Montana, and may discuss with them rolling my tiny house up there someday. I know there’s a lot of crazy people up there but where they are is a bit away from that.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

My grandfather was Finnish, so that seems like a natural choice, but I would probably say Uruguay because it seems like a nice relatively affordable place and I could improve my (terrible) Spanish (i don't speak any Finnish).

[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

Germany. I might be able to claim ancestry rights. Ironic that my great grandmother fled fascism in Germany but I'd flee America to return to the motherland.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

That’s not how it works hun. You’d have to go through the regular process of becoming a citizen by immigration.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Ancestry rights≠automatic citizenship and the person you're responding to didn't make that claim.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, it's just one of the avenues. I could also just get a job there as I'm in tech, I'm not quite fluent in German yet especially when it comes to tech jargon. But I'm getting there.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago

Depending on your field tech jargon is probably all english even in Germany.

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