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Death rates correlate with education levels, urbanization rate, alcohol consumption, car size, driving laws, speed cameras, and road design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBPkI3CCY8o

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

Fatalities per capita is probably less interesting than fatalities per unit of distance driven.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

There are states in Australia that can swallow Texas whole. Long distance driving is unavoidable, so it's less useful as a metric because it can't be changed easily. It would mean improving public transport, subsidising domestic flights, etc - and we all know how likely that is.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I mean, you guys have 6 states covering a landmass roughly 75% the size of the US…

Get more states 😜

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You've heard the term "balkanization"? You've just invented "US-ification".

More states = more politicians 🤮

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I’m really hopeful people get their heads out of their asses and flip the majorities in the house and senate next year…

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

I mean, you guys have 6 states covering a landmass roughly 75% the size of the US…

Get more states 😜

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago
[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pretty clear pattern with the US states. The lowest death rates are decidedly blue and the highest are decidedly red.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Like Tal said, a confounder for that would be distances driven. There are probably similar ones like rural/uban populations etc. It would be great to see a study allowing for these.
I couldn't find one but I didnt look very hard.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Death rates correlate with education levels, culture, urbanization rate, car size, driving laws, speed cameras and road design.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In that order?

edit: OK, so I actually watched the video: #1 was vehicle miles/kms travelled

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I would bet the highest correlation is with drunk driving.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

It's miles driven per person. Wisconsin and Minnesota have ridiculous drunk driving rates, but they are middle of the pack.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Presumably, people drive more frequently and for longer distances in the red states. Everyone I know back in my home red state commutes between 30 minutes to an hour, sometimes more, everyday. They're not sitting in traffic either.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't know why you think people would spend any less time in traffic in blue states.

Death rates correlate with education levels, culture, urbanization rate, car size, driving laws, speed cameras and road design.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The main issue is distance (and speed), not time. Your far less likely to be in a fatal car crash (or crash out any kind) in slow-moving city traffic jams vs driving from your rural house to your job in the next small town doing 85 mph on a 2-lane highway, which is the scenario a lot of folks in rural areas have every day

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

It's not time in traffic. It's time NOT in traffic. Traffic is slow and not often deadly. Driving for an hour at 70mph is much more dangerous than an hour at 25mph.

And blue states often have bigger cities with slower traffic and shorter commute distances.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Am I stupid? Where's New Hampshire?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Notice how the states you'd be trying to leave or drive through as fast as possible are all grouped at one end of the scale?

I'm not saying this is the only reason. But it can still be a reason.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

As a MA resident, I have always said that we're highly aggressive drivers but overall pretty safe as long as you can walk the walk. Just never show fear.

Its actually really easy, don't be a fuckwit and you won't get fucked with.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

God fucking damnit I knew it wasn’t confirmation bias when I moved from Illinois to Alabama and though, “god damnit, people don’t know how to drive down here.”

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Arkansas at #3. I am not remotely shocked. People here drive like complete morons who are oblivious to everyone else on the road. Just on your average trip to Bentonville -- which is about 8 miles from me -- you're almost guaranteed to see half a dozen cars blow through a red light. I've had more close calls than I can count.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Unless I miscounted they seem to be missing a few states.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

They only included the two thirds of states that best supported their intended message.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I’m a proud resident of one of Canada’s only four provinces.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

What a coincidence, I'm a proud resident of one of Australia's only four states.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Definitely missing some. I was looking for where Wyoming lined up. Combed the line like 8 times before I decided I wasn't missing something.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Currently live in Louisiana, close to Arkansas border. The roads are just as bad as the drivers. I learned to drive when I still lived in Cali. I've had to find tune my predictive idiot sense living where I do now. I legit think vehicles are sold here without blinker fluid

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I'm from Washington and I'm surprised we're not higher. In the winter it's dark during both morning and evening rush hour, meaning most people are doing their commutes in the dark. It can feel pretty dangerous sometimes.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Look closer at the ranking of states. This isn't about weather or external causes. Wisconsin and Minnesota have much worse weather in the winter and are almost as dark in the winter as Washington with similar death rates, but their rates are much lower than Mississippi and Alabama who have no snow and more sunlight in winter. The three are lower even than Arizona, which is usually sunny and rarely has snow.

External things like how many miles are driven on average by the people in the state is huge. Also things like speeding culture, average car safety (poor states have shittier cars or old trucks), and road maintenance are all big impacts, too.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I don't know enough to be able to extrapolate anything from it, but sounds like there's a lot to unpack for those like you who can.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I'm genuinely surprised Utah isn't higher on this list. I've driven in many states, and that state has by far the worst drivers I've encountered.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Massholes are aggressive, but not necessarily bad drivers. New Jersey, on the other hand...

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It doesn't have 50 american states, 10 provinces 3 territories, and 8 Australian states (sorry I don't know if they are classed otherwise)

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

In the UK in 2023, it was about 2.5 per 100,00 people.

Sauce

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

There are a lot of missing people underwater in their cars, in the South and Midwest.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

14 missing states, including South/North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Nebraska, Alaska, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Delaware, Rhode Island, Hawaii, and West Virginia. Most of those states barely have 100,000 people.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Those 14 are the least populated states. However, with the exception of Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska, and the Dakotas all of them have populations over 1 Million. Wyoming, the least populous state, has a population of 590,000.

I wouldn't exactly call that "barely 100,000."

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