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[-] [email protected] 154 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If it's upheld, that's the precursor to full-blown info blackouts, just cut off internet to anyone 'accused' of wrongspeak against the powers that be, which is basically everyone.

This also sounds like SOPA reborn.

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[-] [email protected] 109 points 4 days ago

Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?

[-] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago

Don't give them ideas. Next they'll cut the blood stream to your brain.

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[-] [email protected] 222 points 5 days ago

I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

[-] [email protected] 140 points 5 days ago

Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.

[-] [email protected] 145 points 5 days ago

This would be the case had net neutrality not been killed off nearly a decade ago

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[-] [email protected] 93 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don't have a right to electricity, or even water. They'll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago

or even water

Already did.

We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.

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[-] [email protected] 61 points 5 days ago

Pragmatically, yes. Legally, no. Progressives have been fighting for years to get internet classified as a utility in the US, and regressives and (ironically) internet companies have been fighting against that effort at every turn in the name of profit.

And now look how well that's turned out. Gee, if only some people had warned them that deregulation was a monkey's paw...

[-] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago

They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?

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[-] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago

This is how you get a new darknet.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

Yep there is no way they can block I2P, they have to block all of it.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people's identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.

VPNs are common and usually sufficient.

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[-] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago

"the internet" is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can't be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Exactly, sure disconnect customers from the Internet if they use it for entertainment... but once they use it to earn the income that pays their bills, it becomes questionable... and once it is in practice required to be a citizen, at the local, national or supra national level then it becomes a totally different question, to which the answer is basically no, you can't disconnect someone otherwise you remove their citizenship.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany

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[-] [email protected] 102 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Accused???

Well alrighty then, I hereby accuse the operators of donaldjtrump.com of piracy! Anybody else notice any piratical activity? Foxnews.com seems pretty fishy.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago
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[-] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago

All public wifi will be disconnected pretty quickly.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago

Then pirates will just get smarter. No way for them to see who is watching all of these movies with their VPN and Debrid service.

[-] [email protected] 76 points 5 days ago

So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐

[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

dint they just rule AI can legally scrape/books, but not for people who are pirating directly.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

The US is such a silly place. Everything is so wrong.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago

let's all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here

[-] [email protected] 108 points 5 days ago

I'm not doing piracy, I am merely training my AI!

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

ha. all of my traffic is encrypted and routed through at least 3 pirate friendly countries and servers that don't keep logs. good fucking luck inspecting those packets.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago

Lol.

Do ISPs like making money?

Then they shouldn't disconnect users who pirate.

I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don't do anything though because they like the money I give them.

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[-] [email protected] 82 points 5 days ago

This still won’t make me pay for Netflix

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[-] [email protected] 83 points 5 days ago

I nominate we test with out with the Zuck and his networks.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

Always make sure that QBT uses your VPN's network interface. I got some DMCA emails despite split-tunneling a VPN recently, and I realized it was bound to all interfaces by default - that's no good.

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[-] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago

And now I'm on a VPN because if they're just gonna cut people off for accusing of piracy they're gonna have to cut off everyone with a VPN.

TBH I should have been behind a VPN before

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[-] [email protected] 69 points 5 days ago
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[-] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago

Pirate everything, death to the capitalists.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Get to the point that you don't want their products. Consuming their stuff at all is like sporting brand name cloths and covering the logo.

Once you do this you will find you don't need most of it and it's just a waste of time anyway. The stuff that is authentic and that you genuinely need you can support.

It's honestly like quitting drugs.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

lol, they'll have no customers! ISPs used to send 'warning' letters to customers in England but that's all.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

Same in the US.

I got one once from something I know for sure I didn't download. I always assumed it was a friend of mine staying with us that was torrenting "Boss's Daughter Big Booty XXX" or whatever it was, but I never really wanted to ask.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago

In the beginning we used to exchange cassettes. You would have a boombox with two cassettes. You would play one while you recorded on the other. Then you gave the cassette back to your friend. Next was the VCR with the big ass cassettes.

Then you would do the same with floppies, then zip disks. Then one day CD recording was a thing, then DVDs. Then thumb drives and now portable HDDs. Basically the cheapest form or recording is always the most popular way for people to share stuff.

The only ones who don't want us to share are those who want to make millions by never innovating.

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago

The mere accusation causing someone to lose the Internet, which is vital to modern life, would be insane.

Additionally, it would do little to nothing to stop piracy.

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago

I'm not doing piracy, I'm just trading a lot of data packets with a Proton Server in Switzerland, nothing to see here 😉

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago

(Donald trump voice) "We should hold all food companys liable for users violent crimes, this man stabbed another man to death with a spoon! 30 minutes before he ate kraft mac and cheese. It gave him the energy to violently stab this innocent man"

Lets hope they got common sense

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago

The unproven claims is the key part here. Also the point of "terminating an account would punish every user in a household" is important as well.

You can fine someone for piracy if you want. As long as they have the standard legal protections. But cutting access is excessive.

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