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Disabled people’s lives will be increasingly in danger because of MPs’ failure to understand the risks posed by the assisted dying bill, devastated activists warned on Friday after the legislation was approved by the House of Commons.

Disabled activists had started gathering outside parliament at 6.30am last Friday in preparation for a crucial debate on the terminally ill adults (end of life) bill before a vote that determined whether it passed to the Lords.

Before the vote, supporters of Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC) and Not Dead Yet UK (NDY UK) held up traffic in front of the House of Commons with a last-minute direct action (pictured), accompanied by chants of “we are not… dead yet”.

Among those disabled people outside the Commons was musician and activist John Kelly, who said after the vote was announced: “The truth is, our voices haven’t been listened to.

“What this does is open the door for injustice.

“To rely on a panel to decide my life of social workers, and psychiatrists, have you not read how many injustices and mistakes those people have made, how much abuse and how many rights have been denied disabled people?

“And what they have done is open the door to allow in yet more scandals, yet more abuse.”

Disabled activist Anna Landre told Disability News Service (DNS): “A lot of us are scared about the prospect of enshrining a state-funded ability to die when we don’t have properly-funded state services to live with dignity, let alone to thrive, let alone to get disabled people into work, like this government claims it wants to do.”

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And yet, the overwhelming majority of people in the UK, including disabled people, want this change in the law. So much so that literally every single constituency in the UK has a majority in favour of it, most with 2/3s majorities or more.

The people arguing against it are pretty much all religious groups, often with funding from the USA, who are being coy about their motives. They often dont anounce that the same groups protesting this are the same groups who advocate against abortion for example.

And yet still you still get people like the tanky replying on this page trying to make out that this is kier starmer (who did nothing to promote this bill other than vote in its favour) personally organising a genocide of disabled people for the profit of American pharma companies.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Either way, it's paying lip-service of human life having value, while we know *people suffer and die only for the sake of monetary profit of the few.

The people in those circumstances should have the right to choose, free of financial constraints.

Guess I'm that despised voice you mentioned. 🤷‍♀️

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I honestly cant tell what argument you are trying to make. Yes the world can be a shit place with people suffering and dying for the profit of others, but what does that have to do with legislation being put in place for people - in intolerble pain, with less than six months to live and have been judged by independent review and to be of sound mind and uncoerced - being assisted if they choose to wnd their life?

As to you being the "despised voice" not unless the other comment was from your sock puppet. They were comparing Starmer to Hitler by calling him Sturmer, despite him not having anything to do with this bill. I do in fact see lying about genocide as despicable.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Do you not understand people will choose to die due to financial constraints and inability to get needs met, even if they'd otherwise prefer to live, whether they feel compelled to lie about it or not? It's not that hard to tell what argument I'm making.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For the record I disagree with you (and that wasnt clear from your previous post), but thats a resonable concern to have.

comparing someone to hitler is not.

As to the substance of your concerns, do you think that doesnt happen now? There are plenty of deaths of dispair in the world currently. This bill does absolutely nothing either way for someone who becomes paralysed, loses their job and puts a gun to their own head. What it does do is allow people who are going to die immenently have the peace of mind that if it becomes unbearble to them they will be able to end their life even if they cant physically manage it any more.

I just dont see how providing assistance to die for those who require it has any bearing on people who end their lives due to financial hardship, would you want to go back to making suicide a crime?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

I'd like greedy people to loosen up the purse strings enough that everyone has the right and ability, uncontrollable circumstances aside, to choose whether to live or die, with their personal ideas of dignity.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

I'd like that too! But that is completely separate to this bill. All this bill does is allow people who are in severe pain and about to die in less than half a year to get assistance in ending their lives if they dont have the capacity to do it themselves.

Thats it.

If your argument is that the world isnt already perfectly equitable and so we shouldnt make anything better until it is perfectly equitable then I completely disagree. I think that is a recipe for never improving peoples lives and just a way to get angry at the system without doing anything to improve it.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

Bunch of barf on the screen is what this is. Everyone can take a look at the deepening inequality and privatization of the healthcare system in the Disunited Kkkingdom and see they're headed the way of Kkklanada.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 22 hours ago

This is another one of the Lemmy.world reply guy's accounts btw

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Huh? This my only account I dont even know who you are paranoidly accusing me of being a sock puppet for.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Thanks for lmk. Hopefully I can conserve some energy.

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