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[-] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago

It always kinda baffled me that Ukraine was willing to rely on Telegram, you know, a Russian company.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

Russia is not all black, why do you think Telegram is getting as much backlash from states, media and every government that wants more control over certain groups?

"Organized use of the app has been linked to pro-democracy protests in Belarus,[250] Russia,[251] Hong Kong[252] and Iran,[253]"

From Wikipedia

I don't believe anyone is safe using a smart device if three letter organisations have any serious interest in your persona but i would bet that it is still one of the safer options if you take convinience of usage into play.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Used to. ruZZian government was attacking it hard and then suddenly stopped. After they started cooperating. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_Telegram_in_Russia

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well they blocked half of the russian internet while not beeing able to shut it down, i think it plausible they just gave up and made it look like a win. I don't think military groups, secret service orgs and even Isis would be using it if there was any more danger than a bot scraping your group in an attempt to detect keywords. I much rather believe Durows arrest in france might have something to do with wider chanel blocks and deletes. I might be wrong, but i trust my guts on the credo "judge a person [app] by the enemys they make" and Telegram seems to be very high on the hitlist of any organ trying to break user privacy.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

looks more like the company caved in (prolly under immense political and legal threats from the state). Saver option to just ditch anything Russia had its hands in.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/54339

For me in this case the preferred approach is the Occam's razor - fsb found a way to take over. But following your credo, telegram is absolutely prohibited in the Ukrainian army - either they know or the risk is too high. Which is kind of the same thing.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

No kidding. I've been iffy about the service since experts were skeptical about their custom encryption algorithm (I think) they created.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Use SimpleX chat instead. It's open source, verified secure by 3rd party cryptologists, and has features like self destruct where you can input a secondary passcode and it will seemingly "log you in" while simultaneously deleting all chat history and recreating an account with your name. That ensures that any attempts to capture group members and torture their way into the group could be mitigated.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

You don't understand how Ukrainians use telegram at all. It's first and foremost a Twitter replacement.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

It’s time for them to use Signal and Matrix instead!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Neither has public channels.

The government needs to set up a public service Fediverse instances like the EU has

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yup, the more self-sufficient Ukraine gets the stronger the country becomes! Slava Ukranini 🇺🇦

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Isn't telegram russian? Why is anyone surprised here? Some people are living proof that humanity is as dumb as some dictators want us to believe it is. Jesus Christ

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Details: The NotaYenota community noted that several Russian OSINT channels were also deleted alongside Ukrainian ones.

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