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Saw people talking in comments at several places now, expressing animosity towards them to say the least, always presented as something that everyone seems to know about.

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[-] [email protected] 90 points 2 days ago

The Stop Killing games campaign is an EU petition to prevent game developers from making games that people bought unplayable, for example by turning off the servers of always-online games.

Pirate Software is a youtuber and game developer who made several videos criticizing the campaign. He thinks it's unreasonable to expect game developers to do this and also asserts that people who purchase games don't own them. His videos supposedly had a measurable negative impact on the petition, which at this point looks like it might fail. Combined with the fact that he often acted quite rude and arrogant towards supporters of the campaign, he is now quite unpopular among them.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago

Beyond rude and arrogant IMO. He misunderstood and misrepresented the SKG campaign and, when called out on this, refused to engage or discuss it further.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

and also asserts that people who purchase games don't own them

Isn't that a large part of what the petition is aiming for though?

[-] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago

To be more clear, PirateSoftware thinks the status quo of only owning a license for a game, which can be revoked at any time, is a good thing that should be kept.

Stop Killing Games would give consumers more rights, which would bring the purchase of a digital game license closer to actual ownership.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

PirateSoftware thinks the status quo of only owning a license for a game, which can be revoked at any time, is a good thing that should be kept.

What kind of head injury does one need to sustain to come up with that conclusion

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The head injury called "privilege".

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

The idea from pirate software is that they shouldn't and that's the better scenario.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

For anyone who didn't know, Thor's (the guy himself who is behind PirateSoftware) claim to fame is that his dad worked at Blizzard.

His dad is also the real world inspiration behind the South Park WoW guy:

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To loosely quote Thor

"No that character wasn't inspired by my dad. That is my dad. Like that's his apartment."

Edit: source

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

South Park WoW guy got laid at least once. I guess there's hope for everyone.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

is there confirmation on this? given how much Pirat has been caught lying is rather hear it from someone else.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Dunno who you're referring to but the Stop Killing Games petition was started when Ubisoft announced that gamers would no longer be able to play The Crew, despite having bought it.

It's not new that online functionality is turned off after the player base dies down, but to be completely unable to play a game that can be played offline is crazy.

So now there's a petition circulating, but it's nearing its end. There are only a couple of days left I think.

It's a petition for the EU (or maybe Europe or the EER, I'm not sure), and every country needs a certain amount of signatures. I think some Mediterranean island nations are still lagging, but most countries have plenty now.

If you're in Europe, find the petition and sign it. Especially if you live in Malta or Cyprus.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Especially if you live in Malta or Cyprus.

That doesn't matter at this point. The country threshold has been reached. Now it "only" needs to reach 1 million total signatures before the end of july, currently sitting at around 600k.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Corporate propagandists have infiltrated so much of the discourse it's almost impossible to make any positive change. Eat the rich.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Saw people talking in comments at several places now, expressing animosity towards them to say the least, always presented as something that everyone seems to know about.

tl;dr It's YouTuber drama. Consider yourself lucky you're not so terminally online that you understand it.

Piratesoftware is a Twitch steamer/YouTuber who speaks his mind quite bluntly and doesn't back down after doing so. Because of that, he's often involved in streamer drama and has a lot of people who dislike him. Haters love to reference these past dramas whenever his name is brought up.

10 months ago, he was involved in drama when he was asked his opinion on the Stop Killing Games EU citizens initiative. His opinion was that he didnt like it and expressed himself in a crass and crude way as he normally does. Supporters of the initiative didn't like that and it spawned a lot of back and forth arguments before dying down.

Currently, the citizens initiative is short on having the required signatures to move forward and the deadline is in a few weeks. The lead guy behind the movement put out a video saying the initiative will likely fail, he will be ending his organization efforts when it does, and blamed it on Piratesoftware's video from 10 months ago. That has restarted the drama.

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