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[-] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago

Jazz, Rock, Disco, and Rap, at minimum.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Dubstep has strong roots to Jamacian Dub. https://youtu.be/NUOeHoLCisw. Except for the dub guys, are actual wizards making all of their effects with analog technology.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Also reggea and dancehall come from Jamaica as well, incredible such a small country having so much influence.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's assumed here that rock is derived from blues

EDIT : Blues is blues, which is obviously black.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory

Big if true

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Rock had a whooole lot of influences including white ones.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

How much time do you have, ha?

This is one of the most well researched pieces of work I've ever come across. Like somebody's PhD dissertation. A ten year project for the author. I can't recommend it enough.

So just to throw some names out there of white people who significantly influenced rock music: Johnny Otis, Bob Wills, Cosimo Matassa.

Seriously, check out this podcast you're interested in this stuff. I think it's on other platforms if you don't have Spotify.

https://open.spotify.com/show/7KGhTDsEpOgBAT24WfpTkk

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Funk, Blues, R&B, Reggae, Bebop, Swing...

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Techno came from black kids on Detroit listening to Kraftwerk and then exporting that sound back to Germany

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

They lived in Belleville, but no one knows where that is.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I don't necessarily agree that they "invented" punk but Bad Brains definitely invented hardcore.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I was at the Magic Stick show in Detroit for the doc. I used to live down the street.

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

I feel like the roots of basically all western mudic today are African American, if you consider techno to have come from hiphop/r&b and punk rock.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

In Germany, we differentiate E- and U-Musik. E (Ernst) means "serious" and is classical music and stuff. U (Unterhaltung) = entertainment and is everything African American inspired (Jazz, Rock, Pop, hip hop, ...). This difference basically exists to devalue everything that isn't central European in origin

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah... Mozart's compositions definetly are only serious and not for entertainment at all. Stuff like... checks notes "Leck mich im Arsch" or the original text of "Bona Nox". /s

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Adam Neely has a good video on this. Music is constantly judged on how well it conforms to "the harmonic style of 18th century European musicians"

https://youtu.be/Kr3quGh7pJA

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Except for traditional Folk from various European locations. I think this still counts as "Western Music", even if it isn't that popular.

If you consider the Western World to be purely Northern America, then I think you're right, since Native American tribes are normally not considered Western.

Imo, the best music comes from a mix of various cultures, I'm a huge fan of Folk Rock/Metal. (Rock and thus Metal obviously coming from Blues).

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Definitly true and fair point, yes i meant pop music in western countries. Also still a lot of new classical music being released. I would be more right if i had said 'almost all genres of western pop music have Afro-American roots'.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

All good, I didn't want to accuse you of being wrong or anything. I just like to think of exceptions in cases like that. And I learned a few things on the way :)

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Most of Elvis early hits were ripoffs of black music

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This scenario has happened so many zillion times it's not the least bit astounding - something becomes popular with a group of people, then another group and another, in spite of some people hating it or sometimes because of that, and the business world figures out how to make money off it.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

"The only art form that Americans have invented, that will commend us down through the years to posterity, is a music born primarily in a community that has the historical memory of being unfree is a supposedly free land" - Ken Burns

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