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Bad Arguments Against Free Buses (www.peoplespolicyproject.org)
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[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Fees are an effective way to shape behavior. Charge for the things you want to discourage, don't charge for the things you want to encourage. Charging use based fares discourages people from using the transit.

Because transit and bicycles are the most cost effective and energy efficient ways to move people, those things should be paid for with fees on cars. Toll the roads, and charge congestion pricing. Then use that money to pay for the free to ride transit.

The neoliberal idea that things need to pay for themselves is a cancer. My state really takes the climate seriously, or so they claim. But they actively discourage drivers from reducing their carbon output by using transit, or driving a hybrid or EV, by charging extra for those things specifically.

Make the busses and trains free and the cars costly.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

Neoliberal economists want to force everyhing to be priced, even when it makes no sense to do so (often, the administrative cost exceeds the additional revenue gained).

[-] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago

They really need to make transit free.. Fare enforcement will always cost more than just having it be free, and paying with taxes.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 16 hours ago

I have tried to have this conversation with people since high school in the 90s and all I get is 'people will use the services too much' and 'but then people are paying for stuff they don't use' and never understand they are already paying for things they don't use and the whole point is for people to be able to use it.

People are stupid.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago

Imagine paying money that benefits the entire community in multiple ways, even tough you don't ride on public buses./j

[-] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

"people will use it too much" is such a hilariously moronic complaint, especially when it comes from the actual public transport agencies themselves

it just reveals that people view public transport as some sort of neccesary evil, and they wish it would just go away, it's as dumb as american rail freight companies doing everything in their power to not have to run freight trains

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